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Backup plan for BIGLAW outcasts. Become PRINCIPALS.
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:33 PM Author: flushed box office kitty Seriously. All make at least 100k to start and you can get a Masters in Education in a year.
See http://www.gse.harvard.edu/academics/masters/highered/description.html
Fairly easy jobs in terms of hours, stress, and a recession proof gig.
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:47 PM Author: stimulating khaki hissy fit jap Not sure it is that easy a job to get (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082433) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:49 PM Author: flushed box office kitty Of course it is. There are hundreds of 1000s of schools in this country and they all need principals.
Someone coming in with a JD from a highly ranked school coupled with a Masters from Harvard in Education would be highly sought out. |
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Date: March 9th, 2009 12:58 PM Author: pink hell community account need school admin exp bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11092462) |
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Date: March 9th, 2009 1:06 PM Author: drab factory reset button "Someone coming in with a JD from a highly ranked school coupled with a Masters from Harvard in Education [and absolutely no teaching or educational administrative experience] would [not] be highly sought out."
Fixed that for you.
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Date: March 9th, 2009 1:07 PM Author: Electric Shimmering Boiling Water titcf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11092548) |
Date: March 8th, 2009 12:47 PM Author: flushed box office kitty No one else thinks this is a good idea? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082432) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:49 PM Author: flickering ultramarine national security agency preventive strike i suspect no one else thinks this an entry level position. and yes, it would need to be an entry level position for someone trying to lateral from a few years at the firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082439) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:50 PM Author: flushed box office kitty Lots of prinicpals are ex-teachers with weak credentials or credentialed fresh out of PHD programs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082446) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:50 PM Author: Hot filthy meetinghouse potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082449) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:52 PM Author: flickering ultramarine national security agency preventive strike ex-teachers and fresh phds with previous experience, otherwise you aren't getting the good jobs. i doubt anyone here wants to remake lean on me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082459) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:51 PM Author: trip know-it-all bawdyhouse you realize you have to be a teacher/work for the school board for a while before you're a principal, right? They couldn't care less about your H degree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082455) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:53 PM Author: flushed box office kitty This is NOT correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082460) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:55 PM Author: trip know-it-all bawdyhouse well it is, but okay. tenure is the one of the most important things in any kind of school position. why the hell would they hire a lawyer who has no experience to be a principal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082474) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:57 PM Author: flushed box office kitty ?
Principals are not tenured teachers you idiot, they are managers/leaders. In fact, if they are former teachers, they are almost never from the same district because of internal issues that can cause because principals have to discipline teachers.
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:00 PM Author: trip know-it-all bawdyhouse i'm still loling at the thought you you thinking your worthless jd means a shit to anyone outside of the legal world. I wouldn't call anyone an idiot when your dumbass thinks a school board would give a fuck about a jd, especially when the person has no experience (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082511) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:01 PM Author: massive stain TITCR. This guy is a dumb fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082519) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:02 PM Author: flushed box office kitty OK, fuckface. They would have a JD and a Master's in Education. That is easily as credentialed as a PHD in Education - which a retard could get.
They would have professional experience as a leader and a manager if they worked in a BIGLAW firm which would would translate nicely to running and managing a high school.
HTFH. |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:03 PM Author: massive stain yes b/c managing kids is so much like writing memos at a BIGLAW firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082526) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:05 PM Author: flushed box office kitty Idiot, leadership skills and good judgment are available in abundance in BIGLAW. That is what boards look for in principals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082544) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:08 PM Author: massive stain So basically you dropped all that money for a law school education only become a principal? Sounds like GREAT judgment to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082558) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:10 PM Author: flushed box office kitty WE DIDN'T LAND ON THIS ECONOMY, IT LANDED ON US! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082571) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:11 PM Author: massive stain Clearly spending more time and money on a worthless education is the solution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082577) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:56 PM Author: Ruddy set dude, the teachers are all unionized, you need tenure, just like getting a fucking promotion working as a steelwelder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082487) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:59 PM Author: flushed box office kitty Principals are NOT TEACHERS. They are not in the union. They work for the board as management to SUPERVISE TEACHERS. WTF is wrong with some of you? Do you not understand the concept of management and union? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082503) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:03 PM Author: Exhilarant mexican dysfunction for real. fucking retards can't distinguish between faculty and administration. i endorse your plan, btw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082524) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:04 PM Author: flushed box office kitty ty. It is like talking to retards in here. WUT DO U MEANS THAT PRINCIPALS IS NOT TEACHERS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082534) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:05 PM Author: Ruddy set http://isteve.blogspot.com/2007/05/did-you-know-that-there-are-unions-of.html
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:06 PM Author: trip know-it-all bawdyhouse ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082549) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:09 PM Author: flushed box office kitty Completely irrelevant. I hope this helps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082563) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:06 PM Author: massive stain Sounds like you've really thought this through. Enjoy dropping more $$ in a masters in education. Let us know how it turns out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082548) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:10 PM Author: Exhilarant mexican dysfunction fine, so you'll probably have to be vice principal first or some shit. big deal. could probably parlay that position to get some jailbait ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082567) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:05 PM Author: trip know-it-all bawdyhouse I'm having trouble believing that you can't understand how most in the admin ranks come from the faculty ranks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082539) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:03 PM Author: Ruddy set http://isteve.blogspot.com/2007/05/did-you-know-that-there-are-unions-of.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/09/nyregion/09klein.html?ei=5088&en=d7cf84803d67ab68&ex=1320728400&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=all |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:08 PM Author: flushed box office kitty Are u seriously this retarded or are you pretending for affect?
Principals are not in the teacher's union because they manage teachers. Instead, they report to the Board of Ed in nearly all instances. The fact that some prinicpal's have formed a union does not dispute any of this.
I sincerely hope this helps. |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:09 PM Author: Ruddy set that doesn't change the way its run dood, like any other union you can't just show up and get a plum job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082562) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:12 PM Author: flushed box office kitty ? How old are you? The union doesn't hire principals you idiotic fuck. The Board hires them and if they have a union, they would then join. As an aside, most principals don't have unions.
In any case, your point is moot. |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 3:48 PM Author: Ruddy set Do you know how unions work?
The unions almost assuredly have rules in their CBA about WHO the board is allowed to hire, just like in every other union trade |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 4:03 PM Author: flushed box office kitty Christ. You are an idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11083841) |
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Date: March 9th, 2009 12:54 AM Author: Ruddy set In a thread started by someone who is banking on a JD+ M.A. = Principal position, I'm the idiot?
You'll get in everywhere you apply! |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 12:58 PM Author: arousing people who are hurt Why do that when I can become the next Cuban dictator instead? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082500) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:04 PM Author: massive stain J.D. + masters in Cuban studies = Cuban dictator? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082532) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:07 PM Author: trip know-it-all bawdyhouse JD + masters in public health= Doctor! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082553) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:08 PM Author: Ruddy set JD + Masters in Astronomy = ASTRONAUT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082559) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:13 PM Author: Exhilarant mexican dysfunction you guys are making retarded analogies. those degrees aren't aimed to qualify you for those position, where as a masters in education is specifically designed to qualify you for school administration. but have fun building strawmen, i'm sure you'll be great lawyers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082585) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:14 PM Author: massive stain Most principals I know have phds in education. You're a fucking loon if you think a JD + masters is the same thing as a phd in education. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082590) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:15 PM Author: flushed box office kitty I don't think it is the same. I think it is arguably better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082596) |
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Date: March 9th, 2009 12:53 AM Author: Carnelian Hairless Knife Main People The VAST MAJORITY of public school principals dont have PhDs. That is a completely retarded assertion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11089248) |
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Date: March 8th, 2009 1:10 PM Author: massive stain you dont even need a masters. J.D. + B.S. in bio = doctor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11082568) |
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Date: March 9th, 2009 12:58 AM Author: Ruddy set http://www.tulsaschools.org/jobs/Principal_Intern.pdf
"Experience: • Minimum of five years teaching experience."
http://www.mireap.net/job_postings/6845/MI01/MI01
Job Description: High School Principal, qualifications include at least five years teaching experience, three years experience as an assistant principal or principal preferred, a Master's degree with major emphasis in educational administration preferred
http://www.cgcs.org/about/Pittsburgh_Joblisting.aspx
Requirements:
· Master’s degree in Educational Administration · Valid State Certification for K-12 Principal, Secondary Principal, or Letter of Eligibility · Five years teaching experience in the creative and/or performing arts with demonstrated depth of knowledge and success in the content area. · Five years experience as an administrator or supervisor
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Date: March 9th, 2009 1:16 AM Author: stubborn cruise ship electric furnace *Unless have masters in ed fr/H (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11089558) |
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Date: March 9th, 2009 5:40 AM Author: light place of business immigrant this is the dumbest thread yet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11091310) |
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Date: March 9th, 2009 5:41 AM Author: 180 Jet Location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11091311) |
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Date: March 9th, 2009 5:44 AM Author: Lime jewess Remember in grade school how lame your principal was? Do you want to be that guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11091314) |
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Date: March 9th, 2009 5:45 AM Author: light place of business immigrant my principal was a woman, and surprisingly, very popular. later became superintendent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#11091317) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2009 8:22 PM Author: Ivory greedy address windowlicker bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#12810565) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2009 8:35 PM Author: Pontificating histrionic resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#12810680) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2009 8:38 PM Author: Ivory greedy address windowlicker What if we become girls soccer coaches and teach gym? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=947454&forum_id=2#12810709) |