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Actual USNWR PT law rankings and business school rankings
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:23 PM Author: razzle alpha http://usnews.feedroom.com/index.jsp?fr_story=dec280af1815886fa509438cb9e933325f106637&rf=fr_std
PT: 1. GULC 2. GWU 3. Fordham 4. American 5. GMU
Business schools [numbers are the best I can make out; last year's scores in brackets]:
1 [1] Harvard (100) [100]
2 [1] Stanford (99) [100]
3 [4] Northwestern (93) [93]
3 [3] Penn (93) [95]
5 [4] MIT (92) [93]
6 [4] Chicago (91) [93]
7 [7] Berkeley (88) [89]
8 [7] Dartmouth (87) [89]
9 [9] Columbia (86) [88] 10 [13] Yale (85) [80]
11 [10] NYU (83) [84]
12 [14] Duke (82) [79]
13 [12] Michigan (81) [82]
14 [11] UCLA (80) [83]
15 [17] Carnegie Mellon (79) [77]
15 [14] UVA (79) [79]
17 [14] Cornell (76) [79]
18 [18] Texas-Austin (74) [74]
19 [22] Georgetown (73) [69]
20 [19] UNC (70) [72]
20 [21] USC (70) [70] 22 [24] Emory (69) [68] 23 [29] GaTech (68) [64] 23 [20] Indiana (68) [71] 23 [25] WUSTL (68) [66] 26 [27] Ohio State (67) [65] 26 [34] Washington (67) [61] 26 [29] Wisconsin (67) [64] |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:25 PM Author: gold stage LOL at pt law schools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11436834) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:28 PM Author: razzle alpha I know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11436860) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:37 PM Author: aphrodisiac scarlet locale pervert yeah...what kinds of losers have careers before going to LS and finance it themselves. LOL!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11436949) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:39 PM Author: razzle alpha I don't think you understand what "PT" means. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11436968) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:41 PM Author: aphrodisiac scarlet locale pervert explain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11436984) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:44 PM Author: razzle alpha You can still have a career, then to go law school and finance it yourself, without going PT. See, e.g., Northwestern. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11436995) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 6:56 PM Author: jet range trump supporter not if you want to work during school genius. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437690) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 8:05 PM Author: Arousing frozen lodge therapy Yeah, but the PT programs are mostly used as a back door admission by losers who could not get into FT, and by schools to jack up their profits and hide the shitty candidates that they are letting slide in (what is GULC's class, like 550 before they sneak in the PTers? lol @ GULC)
What they should do is just include the numbers of PT students in the mix with the FT students. People can still work a day job and go to law school part time, if that is their real motivation. |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 8:23 PM Author: aphrodisiac scarlet locale pervert The counter argument (not that I subscribe to it) is that including PT students' stats in the overall rankings will dissuade schools from having pt programs for fear of dropping in the rankings. This will limit opportunities for poors and minorities: something USNews doesn't want to be responsible for.
But like you said, PT programs are largely exploited by students with sub-par stats who then transfer into FT and are a way for schools to subsidize scholarships they give to FT students. So the policy argument is at least somewhat undercut. |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 8:31 PM Author: Arousing frozen lodge therapy Terrible argument. Do you mean that the people with lower numbers looking to game admissions are more likely to be poors and minorities because of the mere fact that they have lower numbers, or is it something else about the nature of a PT program that represents a greater benefit to poors and minorities than the population in general? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11438816) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 8:36 PM Author: aphrodisiac scarlet locale pervert I think you misunderstood the argument. Basically poors and minorities are less likely to be able to finance LS and thus have to work and are the classes that most benefit from the PT programs. Again, I'm really just playing devil's advocate here.
The fact that these PT programs are exploited by applicants with shitty numbers who would rather go full time, like you said, weakens the above stated policy argument. |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 7:51 PM Author: aphrodisiac scarlet locale pervert so if you can manage to support yourself while working, it's possible to save up for 3 years of law school. is this what you're saying????? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11438400) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:29 PM Author: mind-boggling church building fuck. no way yale som should be that high. do you have the median gmats for each school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11436874) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:32 PM Author: razzle alpha Go to the video, stop around 0:55, squint. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11436897) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:34 PM Author: mind-boggling church building I know, I just don't agree with it. Cornell dropped like a rock. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11436920) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:37 PM Author: razzle alpha 14 to 17? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11436942) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:40 PM Author: mind-boggling church building something like that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11436969) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:53 PM Author: razzle alpha That just doesn't seem like a "rock" dropping to me. But maybe I don't know enough about biz. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437095) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:58 PM Author: mind-boggling church building cornell's been on a downward decline for the past ten years. Not long ago, they were ranked ahead of yale and nyu. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437141) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 6:14 PM Author: cyan affirmative action kitchen too bad for those who attend Cornell. pwned!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437284) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 6:19 PM Author: razzle alpha Andy Bernard has not been good for the school's image. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437330) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 7:00 PM Author: light vibrant spot immigrant admitting jsut about any douchebag on the planet hasn't been good for their image (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437733) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 6:03 PM Author: cyan affirmative action kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437187) |
Date: April 15th, 2009 5:46 PM Author: burgundy gay wizard persian I'm shocked NYU PT didn't make the cut. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437006) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:47 PM Author: razzle alpha Flame? They don't have a PT program. While some students may attend PT, that doesn't qualify for a PT program. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437022) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:48 PM Author: burgundy gay wizard persian wtf??? http://www.nyls.edu/prospective_students/j_d_program/evening_division/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437034) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:49 PM Author: razzle alpha ISWYDH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437048) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:49 PM Author: burgundy gay wizard persian que? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437054) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:50 PM Author: razzle alpha I see what you did here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437062) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 6:41 PM Author: Blathering vivacious reading party psychic NYLS doesn't = NYU. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437530) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 6:55 PM Author: citrine hairraiser feces son of senegal stupid n00b. GTFO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437672) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 5:59 PM Author: cyan affirmative action kitchen To me, it looks U Penn and Northwestern are both tied at 3rd. Anybody? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437156) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 6:03 PM Author: razzle alpha On closer reflection, I think you're right. I'll edit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437185) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 6:03 PM Author: cyan affirmative action kitchen cool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437191) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 6:11 PM Author: razzle alpha np (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11437246) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 7:27 PM Author: Indigo shrine Chances that you'll be employed following graduation from any of these Part-TTTime law schools?
lulz. |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 7:48 PM Author: histrionic people who are hurt Goddamn UConn fails again.
--UConn PT J.D. (and employed with handsome compensation, thank you). |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 7:54 PM Author: cyan affirmative action kitchen So, the folks who chose Yale for its name made the right decision. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11438443) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 7:59 PM Author: cyan affirmative action kitchen http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=80749
is this you?
I can't believe that XOXO is more uptodate than BW MBA forum for the MBA rankings haha |
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Date: April 16th, 2009 8:43 AM Author: razzle alpha That wasn't me, and I'm upset about the plagiarism! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11443506) |
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Date: April 16th, 2009 11:25 AM Author: razzle alpha Fixed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11444139) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 8:27 PM Author: cyan affirmative action kitchen It is kind of sad that there is only a 1 point difference b/w Yale and Columbia B school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11438781) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 8:32 PM Author: sapphire nursing home holy fuck, how can u even see what numbers that is? i can barely make out the school names (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11438827) |
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Date: April 15th, 2009 9:04 PM Author: alcoholic magenta ape Flame, Yale's business school is about as top 10 as Princeton law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11439286) |
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Date: April 16th, 2009 9:43 AM Author: razzle alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11443685) |
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Date: April 17th, 2009 10:13 AM Author: razzle alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11455809) |
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Date: April 19th, 2009 4:13 PM Author: razzle alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=976659&forum_id=2#11476095) |