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Halp Bros--Old Law Firm Stole My Couch

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started w...
Translucent boistinker
  10/04/12
take it and make him stop you
out-of-control nursing home
  10/04/12
Lmao!
mind-boggling nighttime gay wizard
  10/04/12
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Racy dilemma telephone
  10/05/12
what state?
misanthropic iridescent shitlib orchestra pit
  10/04/12
lol
flushed diverse multi-billionaire incel
  10/04/12
lol
Fragrant Claret Address
  10/04/12
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infuriating olive community account trust fund
  10/04/12
fuckin' steve
ruby stage
  10/04/12
shitlaw steve
Racy dilemma telephone
  10/04/12
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canary big mental disorder rehab
  05/12/22
If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may hav...
Racy dilemma telephone
  10/04/12
180
lascivious khaki useless brakes principal's office
  10/04/12
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Racy dilemma telephone
  10/04/12
Lol xoxo
brass bateful site
  10/04/12
The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitl...
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  10/05/12
Couches aren't fixtures of any type.
rose home jap
  10/05/12
Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shit...
Racy dilemma telephone
  10/05/12
This is so 180. Well done.
charismatic grizzly becky piazza
  10/05/12
tyty
Racy dilemma telephone
  10/05/12
180
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  10/05/12
180
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  08/22/13
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  05/27/17
Bigfinderskeeperslaw
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  07/19/17
180 if real, 180 if not real
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  10/05/12
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Racy dilemma telephone
  10/05/12
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Racy dilemma telephone
  11/28/12
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Sepia hairless hall
  12/06/13
180 well done.
filthy hairraiser faggot firefighter
  12/06/13
Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looki...
Fragrant Claret Address
  05/27/17
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odious white puppy
  05/12/22
Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing f...
Onyx ratface
  10/04/12
why do you steal from your employer bro?
Racy dilemma telephone
  10/04/12
I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I thi...
Onyx ratface
  10/04/12
sweet good luck bro
Racy dilemma telephone
  10/04/12
thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer
Nubile Thriller Electric Furnace Stage
  10/04/12
It's one of his alts
Racy dilemma telephone
  10/04/12
Flame.
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  10/04/12
cr
Racy dilemma telephone
  10/04/12
You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way ...
galvanic box office
  10/05/12
Fuck yo couch! Buy another one you rich motherfucker! ...
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#pwned
  10/31/26
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saffron comical lay
  12/06/13
Please sue. Best law suit ever.
Fragrant Claret Address
  05/27/17
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Self-absorbed parlour rigpig
  07/19/17
lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your...
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  07/19/17
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canary big mental disorder rehab
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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: Translucent boistinker

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started with this firm, I purchased a couch to nap on between 2pm and 3pm each day, schedule permitting. I was packing up my office last weekend and brought a friend along to help move the couch out. The partner happened to be there and said "not so fast, that's my couch." I calmly explained I had purchased it and brought it in to the office to nap on. He called it an "abandoned fixture" and said under some county ordinance it belonged to him. Halp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21716858)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:14 PM
Author: out-of-control nursing home

take it and make him stop you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21717732)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:50 PM
Author: mind-boggling nighttime gay wizard

Lmao!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21719984)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 11:10 AM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone



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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:32 PM
Author: misanthropic iridescent shitlib orchestra pit

what state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21716895)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:23 PM
Author: flushed diverse multi-billionaire incel

lol

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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:30 PM
Author: Fragrant Claret Address

lol

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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:35 PM
Author: infuriating olive community account trust fund



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:39 PM
Author: ruby stage

fuckin' steve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21717460)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:17 PM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone

shitlaw steve

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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:18 PM
Author: canary big mental disorder rehab



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:46 PM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone

If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may have a right to the furniture. The common law rule is that whatsoever is fixed to the realty is thereby made a part of the realty to which it adheres. However, the new, prevailing rule is that tenants may remove whatever they install for the purpose of carrying on a trade (i.e. trade fixtures), provided that they can be uninstalled without injury to the premises, and that such removal is effected before they yield possession of the premises. Arguably, the couch was a trade fixture--you put it in your office for the purpose of aiding you in carrying on your trade as a lawyer. Given that you can remove it without injury to the premises, and because you haven't completely yielded possession of the premises, I think you have a colorable claim that you have a right to that couch, notwithstanding any extant ordinances. The rationale behind this rule is that it is conducive to trade and commerce. The tenant installs things for the benefit of carrying on his trade, not to enhance the landlord's realty.

You should also be aware that there are other theories that may be applied to these circumstances, depending on what jurisdiction you're in. There is the institutional theory: additions to the realty become a part of an economic unit, and therefore become the landlord's property.

I sincerely xoxohth. Let me know if you have any questions or if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21717502)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:08 PM
Author: lascivious khaki useless brakes principal's office

180

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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: brass bateful site

Lol xoxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21718995)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:11 AM
Author: Marvelous effete menage bbw

The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitlaw firm is some sort of coöp structured like a salon where you rent your own chair/office. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21720779)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 4:26 AM
Author: rose home jap

Couches aren't fixtures of any type.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21720974)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:46 AM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone

Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shitlaw steve, I would bring multiple claims if I was helping OP get his couch back. The aforesaid analysis is merely a possible argument if my other more cogent arguments fail. Look at it as a sort of quasi-landlord-tenant argument, perhaps. Surely, though, there is an argument to be made under the doctrine of finders. Let’s see what that analysis would look like, shall we? The rule of finders is that the finder of property has a right to that property against all the world except the true owner or prior possessor. In this case, OP is the true owner and prior possessor. Therefore, his boss does not have a right to that property. However, bossman is claiming that OP abandoned the couch. In order for one to abandon something, there must be an act of abandonment and intent to abandon. I’ll go ahead and concede that there was an act of abandonment; there is surely an argument that there was. However, OP never intended to abandon the property, as evidenced by his return to the premises in order to retrieve said property. Therefore, the property was not abandoned. Thus, again, OP has a colorable claim that he has a right to that couch.

Again, I sincerely xoxohth. Do let me know if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21721355)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:05 PM
Author: charismatic grizzly becky piazza

This is so 180. Well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21722470)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:06 PM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone

tyty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21723397)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:17 PM
Author: magical maroon lettuce

180

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Date: August 22nd, 2013 11:20 PM
Author: saffron comical lay

180

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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: free-loading histrionic pit



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:11 PM
Author: Nubile Thriller Electric Furnace Stage

Bigfinderskeeperslaw

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Date: October 5th, 2012 7:07 AM
Author: Learning Disabled Institution Degenerate

180 if real, 180 if not real

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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:39 PM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21723576)



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Date: November 28th, 2012 10:30 PM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:34 AM
Author: Sepia hairless hall



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Date: December 6th, 2013 2:24 PM
Author: filthy hairraiser faggot firefighter

180 well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#24581212)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Fragrant Claret Address

Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looking for here is manifestly mislaid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#33409172)



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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:24 PM
Author: odious white puppy



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: Onyx ratface

Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing felony jail time if they added up all the office supplies I stole over the years.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21718998)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone

why do you steal from your employer bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21719060)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: Onyx ratface

I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I think I'm kinda planning to build a yacht out of post-its.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21719075)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone

sweet good luck bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21719119)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Nubile Thriller Electric Furnace Stage

thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21719117)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:24 PM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone

It's one of his alts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21719163)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:19 PM
Author: Curious Zippy Haunted Graveyard Abode

Flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21719634)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:43 PM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone

cr

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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:18 AM
Author: galvanic box office

You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way is a couch a fixture. In no way have you abandoned it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21721248)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: orchid electric immigrant

Fuck yo couch!

Buy another one you rich motherfucker!

Darkness is! Darkness is!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#21722501)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 6:42 PM
Author: Racy dilemma telephone



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle lilac coffee pot internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#33409210)



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Date: October 31st, 2026 12:34 PM
Author: #pwned



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:29 AM
Author: saffron comical lay



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Fragrant Claret Address

Please sue. Best law suit ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#33409168)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: Self-absorbed parlour rigpig



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:33 PM
Author: light glittery house keepsake machete

lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your an employee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2.#33809893)



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Date: August 28th, 2021 12:54 PM
Author: canary big mental disorder rehab



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Date: October 31st, 2026 2:00 PM
Author: お尻のほっぺた (βœ…πŸ‘)



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