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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law...
Aphrodisiac slippery goal in life rigpig
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Vigorous Spot Milk
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Vigorous Spot Milk
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Glittery corner rigor
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
arousing yarmulke kitty cat
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
crimson bull headed stock car
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
smoky hyperactive locus
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
fuchsia nowag
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
fuchsia nowag
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
fuchsia nowag
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
irradiated scarlet rehab becky
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Peach Base Gaming Laptop
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
learning disabled bossy den internal respiration
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
crimson bull headed stock car
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Aphrodisiac slippery goal in life rigpig
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
impertinent stimulating jap
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
stirring idea he suggested clown
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
fiercely-loyal stage
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Aphrodisiac slippery goal in life rigpig
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Mind-boggling step-uncle's house factory reset button
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/26/25
...
unhinged vibrant heaven personal credit line
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
copper lettuce
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
boyish market death wish
  06/26/25
...
jade hell
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
talented library pisswyrm
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Thirsty ticket booth
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Diverse giraffe
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Thirsty ticket booth
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
crimson bull headed stock car
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
smoky hyperactive locus
  06/27/25
...
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Appetizing bright gay wizard
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Thirsty ticket booth
  06/27/25
...
Histrionic milky trailer park
  06/27/25
...
Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Diverse giraffe
  06/27/25
How is STB?
smoky hyperactive locus
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Disturbing chest-beating shrine
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
crimson bull headed stock car
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
copper lettuce
  06/27/25
...
excitant dun senate
  06/27/25
...
crimson bull headed stock car
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac slippery goal in life rigpig

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Vigorous Spot Milk

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Vigorous Spot Milk

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Glittery corner rigor

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: arousing yarmulke kitty cat

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: crimson bull headed stock car

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: smoky hyperactive locus

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: fuchsia nowag

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: fuchsia nowag

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: fuchsia nowag

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: irradiated scarlet rehab becky

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Peach Base Gaming Laptop

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: learning disabled bossy den internal respiration

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: crimson bull headed stock car

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac slippery goal in life rigpig

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: impertinent stimulating jap

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: stirring idea he suggested clown

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal stage

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac slippery goal in life rigpig

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Mind-boggling step-uncle's house factory reset button

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: unhinged vibrant heaven personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: copper lettuce

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: boyish market death wish

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: jade hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: talented library pisswyrm

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Thirsty ticket booth

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Diverse giraffe

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Thirsty ticket booth

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: crimson bull headed stock car

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: smoky hyperactive locus

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Appetizing bright gay wizard

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Thirsty ticket booth

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Histrionic milky trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Low-t Psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Diverse giraffe

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: smoky hyperactive locus

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Disturbing chest-beating shrine

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: crimson bull headed stock car

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: copper lettuce

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: excitant dun senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: crimson bull headed stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053817)