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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Thriller candlestick maker
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
amber chest-beating office deer antler
  12/16/25
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Thriller candlestick maker
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
dull excitant point
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
amber chest-beating office deer antler
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
dull excitant point
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
amber chest-beating office deer antler
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
dull excitant point
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Thriller candlestick maker
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
amber chest-beating office deer antler
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
dull excitant point
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
amber chest-beating office deer antler
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
dull excitant point
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Thriller candlestick maker
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amber chest-beating office deer antler
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
green abnormal sound barrier
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
amber chest-beating office deer antler
  12/16/25
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green abnormal sound barrier
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
exhilarant chocolate death wish lodge
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
amber chest-beating office deer antler
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
fuchsia trip genital piercing turdskin
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
amber chest-beating office deer antler
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Blathering dysfunction
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Thriller candlestick maker
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Pearly Weed Whacker Sneaky Criminal
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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amber chest-beating office deer antler
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Pearly Weed Whacker Sneaky Criminal
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Thriller candlestick maker
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
dull excitant point
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
big legend
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Thriller candlestick maker



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: amber chest-beating office deer antler

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Thriller candlestick maker

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: dull excitant point

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: amber chest-beating office deer antler

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: dull excitant point

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: amber chest-beating office deer antler

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: dull excitant point

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Thriller candlestick maker

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: amber chest-beating office deer antler

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: dull excitant point

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: amber chest-beating office deer antler

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: dull excitant point

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Thriller candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: amber chest-beating office deer antler



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: green abnormal sound barrier

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: amber chest-beating office deer antler

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: green abnormal sound barrier



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: exhilarant chocolate death wish lodge

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: amber chest-beating office deer antler

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: fuchsia trip genital piercing turdskin

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: amber chest-beating office deer antler

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Blathering dysfunction

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: amber chest-beating office deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Thriller candlestick maker



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Pearly Weed Whacker Sneaky Criminal

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Insanely Creepy Soul-stirring Jap Potus

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: amber chest-beating office deer antler



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Pearly Weed Whacker Sneaky Criminal



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Thriller candlestick maker



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Thriller candlestick maker



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: dull excitant point

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: big legend

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515738)