Edit: not consuela. He's against it now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49728837)

one weird trick to avoid dying for israel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730035)

i do not support the war, but you cut off your kid's cock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49729212)

what prompted this thread from epah?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49729966)

I don’t know that anyone here supports this war, the split seems to be people who’d like it to be over quickly with minimum US and stock market death vs. open traitors who are rooting for max US casualties and economic destruction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49729264)

Aren't consuela, TDNW, and sealclubber supportive of it?

Edit: consuela changed his mind; he's against it now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49729903)

Me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49731216)

So it's really some of the brightest lights of xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49729879)

I think America has to be the world police sometimes and it's lame to be so anti war that you're against all wars forever. But this feels like the Jews have drawn us so deep into an unwinnable quagmire. If Trump can win quickly, decisively, cheaply, he is a GOAT. But looking back he should have just got them to sign a deal where they never get the nuke or get too much firepower. It seems like Iran wanted a deal. But we are never, ever going to defeat this regime. This is Vietnam. You're not going to win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730191)

guess this is what happens when you show up with hulk hogan ripping his shirt in half at your rallies and appoint literal retarded people to cabinet positions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730313)

That's why I started this thread was for people just to say whether they're for or against it.

But now thanks to people like Consuela and his ever-changing positions on the issue, ITT is just getting to be a mess. We need a new thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49729982)

i especially opppse them when it's about imperialism. we should not kill and plunder, it's morally wrong

im especially opposed to imperial foreign wars that won't benefit ordinary americans. public funds and potentially lives should not be spent further enriching the wealthy.

i especially oppose foreign imperial war for oligarchs at the behest of israel. they are a genocidal ethnostate and terrible ally. not only is it morally wrong, but we will gain nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730187)

but ljl at blaming jews being in control. nigger you spent last week arguing for the war. the reason why jews are in control are because of goy cattle like you. how tf are you gonna blame jews when YOU supported it too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730446)

let's say i did rip you for those things unfairly. how does that change whether or not you're dodging accountability for your own bad takes right now? you can't blame jews for something you also supported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730482)

I only celebrated the war in the beginning because it's exciting when we carpet bomb third worldists. But link to me calling for war with Iran? I never said we should go do this. Once it was happening it's beyond my control. Yes I'm rooting for USA and I always will.

So the war was misguided. How is this my fault? How is it on me? Explain that one. I'm just some random goy online.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730508)

you just said you oppose the war now. are you rooting against the us now? if not, then your cant justify you opinion on simply supporting the us.

"So the war was misguided. How is this my fault? How is it on me? Explain that one. I'm just some random goy online."

your opinions is 100% in your control. you can't blame jews for something you also supported. unless you want to just cop to being a cattle goy whose opinions dither with cattle-like credulousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730529)

Author: goyim in abundanceeeeee

This is why I support war in Iran despite my displeasure with being run by Jewish overlords I am so sick of bucktooth camel fuckers. Every retard civilization like this needs to die and go away forever. These people are too stupid to have a country and the only thing they produce is terrorism and unprovoked war. Peaceniks should all be incinerated for their asinine childish views.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840967&forum_id=2#49711492)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730541)

No, the accusation isn't accurate based on the thread.

### Blaming HAtp for starting the war

Gunneratttt (spiritually female godfather) doesn't directly blame HAtp (goyim in abundanceeeee) for *starting* the war. Instead, Gunner criticizes HAtp for *supporting* the war (citing HAtp's past posts from March 3rd where he explicitly endorsed it) and argues that people like HAtp—described as "goy cattle"—enable Jewish control, which in turn leads to such wars. Key quotes from Gunner:

- "ljl at blaming jews being in control. nigger you spent last week arguing for the war. the reason why jews are in control are because of goy cattle like you. how tf are you gonna blame jews when YOU supported it too?"

- "you can't blame jews for something you also supported."

This is more about calling out hypocrisy and complicity through support, not causation or initiation. HAtp seems to be exaggerating or misinterpreting Gunner's point when he says "you blamed me for starting the war." Gunner repeatedly emphasizes personal accountability for opinions, not that HAtp (a "random goy online") personally precipitated the conflict.

### Pivoting to a different take

Gunner's core take remains consistent throughout: opposition to the war from the start, criticism of imperialism (especially for Israel's benefit), and challenging HAtp's ability to blame "Jewish overlords" while having supported the war himself. He doesn't shift gears or abandon his initial position—he reinforces it by quoting HAtp's prior pro-war statements and using imgur links (likely screenshots of contradictions). If anything, the "pivot" HAtp references might be Gunner moving from general war opposition to specifically roasting HAtp's inconsistencies, but that's not a change in take; it's an escalation in response to HAtp's comments about Jewish control and inevitability. Gunner addresses his "initial thought" (opposition) early and ties it back in multiple replies, e.g., "hence why i was opposed from the start."

Overall, HAtp's accusation reads like defensiveness amid being called out for flip-flopping (e.g., claiming the war is "misguided" now but still supporting it and rooting for a win). Gunner's stance is steady, focusing on moral and practical opposition without assigning HAtp direct blame for the war's outbreak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730664)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730200)

Every single war is bad but the reasons people give for not supporting them suck. Boomers opposed Viet Nam bc they were too dumb to understand liberal arts. That’s not a good reason. Pretending to care about soldiers’ lives or lying and saying it costs $1 trillion when the military already exists and didn’t need to be raised is intellectually dishonest.

What we need to do is get something out of Israel. Like they should be paying us $10,000,000,000k in gold bullion per sortie payable in advance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730238)

Boomers opposed Viet Nam bc they were too dumb to understand liberal arts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49731407)

I’ve been saying trump was a fucking gaped Gemini boomer clown since 2015, his entire admin is like an old MAD TV skit with Patel and Hegseth lmao

I’m pro veteran and am on non profit boards for them and this shit is fucking insane, we should just be lucky that drones haven’t started hitting USA yet tbh - doesn’t feel good seeing corn fed goyim dying for sand nigger reasons

But Israel has every right to wipe out the muzzshit leaders if they can with as little usa support as possible, I don’t trust Saudis or the other Sunni countries and a vacuum in Iran will cause some insane unpredictable black swan at some point especially once Ben gurion canal and the superhighway Abraham accords pick up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730343)

No Israel can kill them all themselves if they want

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49730455)

its always in a fresh chat session. its not syncophantic because it has no idea im gunneratttt nor do i tell it to favor one of us. you're just very mad that even "low iq llms" picks up on your stupidity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49731529)

"I scarcely put a thought into it"

obviously. but you did emotionally type 10x more words.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49731586)

https://x.com/baseddeptgnrl/status/2031243783782662475?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49731244)

Fortress America means all hands on deck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843484&forum_id=2Elisa#49731523)