Think about it. People here rail about GC and with good reason. Orthodox christianity has warned about mammon for a very long time. But here we are, tethered to office desks we hate and debt we cant manage and we know its terrible for you but we keep doing it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411359)

JFC. No pun intended.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411303)

See my generic response to your sentiment here:

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023852&mc=26&forum_id=2#36411288

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411342)

And tbf bort Jews would trash you for posting anything related to Christianity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411380)

Forget the phrase “prosperity gospel” and watch 5 min of this video and you’ll see what I mean:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BXIvrF2kARE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411397)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OAwPoPtDRo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411408)

If you can’t address the substance of the message, there’s nothing to discuss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411478)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BXIvrF2kARE

Rather than tear down a scarecrow built on a caricature of what you imagine his message to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411587)

Seriously, it’s only 5 min of your time. Should give it a shot instead of clinging to your preconceived notions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411652)

“You see, that's the great part about this. His messages are so true, and relentlessly positive, that the only type of opposition stems from people who've never watched them.”

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023852&mc=33&forum_id=2#36410816

It’s incredibly obvious you’ve never watched. I’m confident that as this gets more attention, more people here will watch, get into it, and become happier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411566)

Guess you were right and I was wrong all along.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411593)

https://babylonbee.com/news/joel-osteen-signs-endorsement-deal-colgate/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411654)

It’s very simple, have you heard of the free market? You sound like a Marxist or something talking about whether someone “needs” a certain amount of money.

As Upset Jewtp poasted, Colgate gave Osteen an endorsement deal of $11 million. I’m sure Osteen has other endorsement deals, because his message is amazing, but since I care about the message, not the man, I’ve never bothered to look into it.

You’ll have to take up your concerns with Colgate and the like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36413192)

"[His] viewpoint is traditional and has, in the eyes of many white Southerners, the honor that attaches to a great past. "God advocates segregation," Governor Talmadge maintains. "There are five different races and God created them all different. He did not intend them to be mixed or He would not have separated or segregated them. Certainly history shows that nations composed of a mongrel race lose their strength and become weak, lazy and indifferent. They become easy prey to outside nations. And isn't that just exactly what the Communists want to happen to the United States?" This is a viewpoint that has been expressed by generations of southern political leaders and remains widely accepted in the rural South today."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411361)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411431)

Particularly in this day and age.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411470)

what next, the celestine prophesy replaces anatomy of melancholy as the xoxo treatise.?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36411451)

try to discuss some details of the law with young lawman8, then enjoy chasing him into a very glib wasteland.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36417088)

In fact, you sound like some hysterical liberal about Trump. Can’t confront the message so it’s all about “Trump said pussy!” or “Trump is a racist, bigot, such a horrible person, etc.”

So there’s nothing I can say to such a person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36418456)

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023852&mc=50&forum_id=2#36412251

Plus, you are flat out lying about separating dumbs from their money. You posted a link showing he makes most of his money from endorsements (his net worth is $55 million and you showed he made $11 million from one deal alone). And his messages are free.

The guy’s message is amazing and deserves every penny that people decide to give him. You can remain proudly ignorant if you want, but in the future, to avoid looking like a buffoon, you really should watch 5 min of what he says before pretending to offer an informed opinion on something you know absolutely nothing about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36418499)

Here, he is not. So I will probably take your advice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36418508)

I’d expect this from him, but not you. I think there’s something deeper at work here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36418524)

"I knew Joel when he was a kid and his father John Osteen was preaching out of an old airplane hangar which became a feed store in South Houston. The congregation was no more than a couple of hundred, with about 50 in attendance.

I think it was around 1980, I remember John praying to raise $3M to build a new church. I went away for a few year and when I came back, John died of a heart attack and Joel had become a pastor. They built Lakewood church on East Houston Road, I believe it was the firs mega church in the area. The congregation grew to about 30,000.

Under Joel's 'management' they church kept growing. He bought the Compaq Center, a sports arena with a capacity of 16,800, which has several services in a week. They 'service' about 52,000 weekly. Tis is not counting the potential millions who watch the services on tv and send him money.

The church has a day care center, and a book store where you can buy Joel's books and other religious literature and paraphernalia; it also has cctv so that if you go to the restroom or anywhere else, you won't miss the sermon.

The religious and spiritual literature market is saturated, but Joel has an advantage because he promotes his book during services which are also viewed on weekly tv programs worldwide.

So while most of his revenue comes from church services, his book sales are greatly successful because of the tax-free promotion from the church.

he is more a motivational speaker than an evangelist; he is at the apex of the 'prosperity gospel.'"

https://www.quora.com/How-much-of-Joel-Osteens-wealth-is-generated-from-religiously-based-tax-exemptions

He seems to use the fact that he mixes his message and disseminates it through his church as a tax advantage. Shrewd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36418544)

You feel threatened by religion and traditional values that lead to a deeper, more fulfilled life, and so you attempt to tear it down any chance you get, clinging to the flimsiest justifications in order to feel better about your own lifestyle.

I think that’s really what’s going on here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36418599)

You’re the one with a fervent opposition to him, on extremely flimsy grounds, despite never having listened to a word he says. So the inquiry is why you feel the way you do. And I think I gave you the answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36418650)

A guy preaches a very positive, inspirational message? And you mean to tell me that others really like this message, pack his venue to hear it, leading him to expand into a bigger venue that also gets packed? And as a result, the guy acquires influence and corporations even give him endorsement deals? For helping people better their lives and become happier?

HERESY! HE’S A CHARLATAN!! EVERYTHING WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36418832)

it's akin to a trust fund kid with deep connections maeking it and then attributing their success to their own intelligence and hard work. except instead of smarts and savvy, it's righteousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36418760)

jumped the shark

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023906&forum_id=2Elisa#36418736)