Are there any arguments for doing this beyond the obvious (Israel First) or the lame bullshit from BAP-tier people (Iran's leadership is bad, it's good to oust them!)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49706906)

But it’s a weak argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49706918)

Only other argument I can believe is all of this is necessary to keep the debt bubble going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49706931)

roflololol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49706940)

It's a lot harder to argue this this fear was invalid after their response was to try and blow up hotels and airports in muslim countries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49706975)

If Trump had been president that wouldn’t be the case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49706976)

Strategically? It's about China, wake up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49707253)

The motives can be broken down into three primary pillars:

1. Securing the "Abrahamic" Economic Corridor

The Abraham Accords were never just about diplomatic recognition; they were the foundation for a massive land-bridge project known as the Israeli-Saudi Superhighway (often linked to the IMEC—India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor).

* The Motive: To make this land route viable, the "Resistance Axis" (Iran-backed proxies in Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon) must be neutralized.

* The Goal: By striking Iran directly, the U.S. and Israel aim to degrade the command-and-control of groups that could target the planned rail and road links connecting the UAE and Saudi Arabia to the Israeli port of Haifa. A weakened Iran reduces the risk for the multi-billion dollar investments required for this "New Middle East" logistics hub.

2. The Ben Gurion Canal: A Strategic Suez Alternative

The Ben Gurion Canal is a proposed Israeli project to cut a waterway from the Gulf of Aqaba (Eilat) to the Mediterranean, creating a competitor to the Suez Canal.

* The Motive: Recent years (2024–2025) proved how easily the Red Sea can be paralyzed by Iranian-backed Houthi rebels.

* The Goal: For the Ben Gurion Canal to be economically viable, the southern entrance (the Bab el-Mandeb Strait) must be secure. Attacking Iran’s military assets—particularly those that supply and direct Houthi maritime operations—is a prerequisite for the massive engineering and financial commitment needed for the canal.

3. Normalization and Regional Defense Integration

A primary driver for the 2026 strikes is the pursuit of Saudi-Israeli normalization, which has been stalled by regional instability.

* The Motive: Saudi Arabia’s "Vision 2030" and gigaprojects like NEOM require a stable, high-tech security environment. Iran’s drone and missile capabilities remain the single greatest threat to these assets.

* The Goal: By demonstrating the "annihilation" of Iran’s offensive threat, the U.S. and Israel are attempting to force a "hinge moment." The goal is to prove to the Gulf states that a U.S.-Israeli security umbrella is more reliable than a policy of de-escalation with Tehran, thereby accelerating the formalization of the Middle East Air Defense (MEAD) alliance.

Summary of Strategic Objectives

| Project | Primary Obstacle | Motive for Attack |

|---|---|---|

| Abraham Accords | Iranian "Resistance Axis" | Clearing land-based trade routes from proxy interference. |

| Ben Gurion Canal | Houthi/Iranian Red Sea blockade | Ensuring long-term maritime security for an Israeli-run waterway. |

| Saudi Superhighway | Missile/Drone threats to NEOM | Providing the security "guarantee" needed for Riyadh to fully normalize. |

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49707350)

Let me ask a different way, how does Israel benefit from Venezuela and Cuba being taken out? It doesn't, but we're doing it anyways because it weakens China and Russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49723597)

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-823778

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49727402)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49707651)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49707652)

If you go back to 2015 / 2016, how many Trump supporters (myself included) would say "yeah I can't wait to have a mega hawkish foreign policy and bomb a bunch of countries because their leaders are mean"??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49708136)

"trans citizens" fucking lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49708725)

take care of ur own trash faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49709350)

the us isn't doing this for israel per se, we're doing it to preserve american strength in the region. israel is our greatest ally there, so it is impossible to seperate doing it "for them" with "for us." but being a jewish nation doesn't factor in, if they were muslim our policy wouldn't be any different.

this is the argument. i don't subscribe to it, but that's what it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49707849)

2. Iran is the heavily involved in online bot traffic and algorhythm manipulation that has a direct impact in turning western shitlibs into open border psychos. Iran's goal is to maximize Muslim immigration to the West. Iran is destroying the West through soft power and the manipulation of shitlibs.

3. China imports a ton of oil from Iran. Stopping that flow will slow down China, which is our real adversary. It will also complicate their efforts to take Taiwan.

4. Iran is one of Russia's few remaining powerful allies. This will put pressure on Russia to come to the negotiating table and end the war in Ukraine.

5. It would be nice to free the tens of millions of Iranians who are stuck living in a backwards Islamic theocracy.

6. Getting a more moderate government in Iran that can work with us and stops exporting propaganda and terrorism will actually create real peace in the Middle East and hopefully we can never hear about these countries ever again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49707985)

2. Israel is heavily involved in online bot traffic and algorithm manipulation that has a direct impact in turning western shitlibs into open border psychos. Israel's goal is to maximize Muslim immigration to the West. Israel is destroying the West through soft power and the manipulation of shitlibs.

3. Israel is one of Russia's few remaining powerful allies. This will put pressure on Russia to come to the negotiating table and end the war in Ukraine.

4. It would be nice to free the millions of Israelis who are stuck living in a backwards Jewish theocracy.

5. Getting a more moderate government in Israel that can work with us and stops exporting propaganda and terrorism will actually create real peace in the Middle East and hopefully we can never hear about these countries ever again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49708518)

This is bullshit

The liberal non-torah observant jews are quietly running the country and fucking everything up right now - the ultra orthos are just free agents for coalitions based on funding, they dont have that much power

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49709470)

you people see benefits without seeing fucking costs

we were a rich country before the jews knocked down the towers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49709356)

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https://x.com/WassonWatch/status/2011500446754410578?

A summary of terrorist attacks and military actions against US Persons carried out by Iran and Iranian-backed terrorist groups since 1979

November 1979–January 1981: Iranian students, backed by the new revolutionary government in Tehran, seize the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and take 66 Americans hostage for 444 days, demanding the return of the deposed Shah for trial.

April 1983: A suicide car bombing at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut kills 63 people, including 17 Americans. The Iran-backed group Islamic Jihad (a precursor to Hezbollah) claims responsibility.

October 1983: Hezbollah operatives drive a truck bomb into the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, killing 241 U.S. service members (including 220 Marines) and wounding dozens more. This remains one of the deadliest attacks on U.S. forces in history and leads to the U.S. withdrawal from Lebanon.

December 1983: Hezbollah operatives bomb the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait City with an explosives-filled dump truck. No Americans are killed, but the attack targets U.S. interests in the region.

March 1984: Terrorists kidnap CIA Beirut station chief William Buckley, torturing him before killing him in 1985. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

December 1984: Hezbollah terrorists hijack Kuwait Airways Flight 221, divert it to Tehran, and kill two American USAID officials.

June 1985: Hezbollah hijacks TWA Flight 847 from Athens to Rome, killing a U.S. Navy diver and holding passengers hostage for 17 days.

July 1989: Hezbollah kills U.S. Marine Corps Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him in 1988 during a UN peacekeeping mission in Lebanon.

April 1995: An explosives-laden van attacks a bus near Kfar Darom in Gaza, killing one American. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

August 1995: A Hamas suicide bomber detonates on a bus in Jerusalem's Ramat Eshkol, killing one American and wounding others.

February 1996: A Hamas suicide bomber attacks a Jerusalem bus, killing three Americans and wounding three more.

March 1996: A suicide bombing at Tel Aviv's Dizengoff Center wounds two Americans. Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad both claim responsibility.

May 1996: Gunmen kill an American-Israeli dual citizen in the West Bank community of Beit El. Suspected links to Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

June 1996: A truck bomb at Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia kills 19 U.S. airmen and injures hundreds. Iran-backed Hezbollah al-Hijaz is responsible.

September 1997: Hamas suicide bombers attack Jerusalem's Ben Yehuda mall, killing one American-Israeli dual citizen and wounding seven other Americans.

August 1998: With Hezbollah assistance, al-Qaeda bombs U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 12 Americans among 224 total deaths.

August 2001: A Hamas suicide bomber attacks Sbarro pizzeria in Jerusalem, killing three Americans (including dual citizens).

September 11, 2001: Iran facilitates transit for al-Qaeda members, including some future 9/11 hijackers, into and out of Afghanistan.

January 2002: Gunmen from the Iran-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade kill one American-Israeli dual citizen in the West Bank.

July 2002: A Hamas bomb at Hebrew University in Jerusalem kills five American students.

June 2003: A Hamas bus bombing in Jerusalem kills one American.

October 2003: Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees bomb U.S. diplomatic personnel in Gaza, killing three.

2003–2011: Iranian-backed militias in Iraq kill at least 603 U.S. troops using explosives and other weapons.

August 2003: A Hamas bus bombing in Jerusalem kills five Americans.

August 2006: Hezbollah kills American-Israeli dual citizen Michael Levin, an IDF soldier, during the Second Lebanon War.

January 2007: IRGC-Quds Force operatives disguised as U.S. soldiers attack a U.S. facility in Karbala, Iraq, killing five U.S. soldiers.

July 2014: Hamas kills two Americans serving in the IDF during Operation Protective Edge in Gaza.

October 2015: Hamas drive-by shooting kills an American citizen and his wife in the West Bank.

December 2019: Kataib Hezbollah rockets kill one U.S. contractor and wound U.S. and Iraqi personnel at K1 base in Iraq.

January 2020: Iran launches ballistic missiles at Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq, causing traumatic brain injuries to over 100 U.S. troops.

March 2020: Former FBI agent Robert Levinson, who disappeared in Iran in 2007, is believed to have died in Iranian custody.

September 2020: U.S. intelligence uncovers an Iranian plot to assassinate the U.S. Ambassador to South Africa.

February 2021: Iran-backed militia rocket in Erbil, Iraq, wounds one U.S. service member and four contractors.

July 2021: Iranian-backed militias launch rocket and drone attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria, wounding two U.S. service members.

September 2022: Iranian rocket attack kills an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.

November 2022: An IRGC captain orchestrates the killing of an American citizen in Baghdad.

March 2023: Iranian drone strikes a U.S. base in Syria, killing one American contractor and wounding five service members and another contractor.

October 7, 2023: Hamas massacre in southern Israel kills at least 48 Americans and kidnaps 12.

December 2023: Iran-backed Iraqi militia drone attack in Erbil wounds three U.S. soldiers, one critically.

January 2024: Kataib Hezbollah drone kills three U.S. soldiers in Jordan and wounds over 40.

October 2024: Iran executes U.S. permanent resident Jamshid Sharmahd on terrorism charges.

October 2023–November 2024: Iran and proxies conduct over 180 attacks on U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounding more than 180 and killing three U.S. service members.

November 2024: U.S. charges an Iranian national and two Americans for plotting to assassinate President Trump.

March 2025: U.S. jury convicts two Iranian agents for plotting to assassinate Iranian-American journalist Masih Alinejad in New York (planned in 2022).

June 2025: Missile or drone attacks, likely by Iranian-backed militias, target at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two in Iraq.

Iran, through direct action, and through backing other terrorist groups, is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans across hundreds of incidents over the last 46 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49708312)

February 1, 1979: Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini returned from 15 years of exile to a massive welcome in Tehran.

February 11, 1979: Revolutionaries and armed civilians took control, marking the official victory of the revolution and the declaration of an Islamic Republic.

November 4, 1979: Iranian militants seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, taking 52 American hostages for 444 days.

December 1979: A new constitution was approved by referendum, making Khomeini the Supreme Leader (Guardian Jurist Ruler).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49708730)

basically says raping infants is okay 👍

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49711487)

it almost seems that if we stopped fucking around in the middle east, we wouldn't have problems with iran

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49722898)

https://x.com/AFpost/status/2028356122739171699

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49708851)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49709102)

I really like it here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49711024)

https://x.com/msmelchen/status/2028867940100067367?s=46&t=bnOsJ_wwsvJ4uXMCgVjfFw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5840182&forum_id=2Elisa#49712019)