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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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aggressive startled locus
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
razzle pink gas station
  12/16/25
18000
aggressive startled locus
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Jet pozpig national
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
razzle pink gas station
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Jet pozpig national
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
razzle pink gas station
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Jet pozpig national
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
aggressive startled locus
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
razzle pink gas station
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Jet pozpig national
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
razzle pink gas station
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Jet pozpig national
  12/17/25
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aggressive startled locus
  12/17/25
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razzle pink gas station
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Fantasy-prone Maniacal Point Azn
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
razzle pink gas station
  12/16/25
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Fantasy-prone Maniacal Point Azn
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Yapping Laughsome Party Of The First Part Community Account
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
razzle pink gas station
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
flesh autistic senate regret
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
razzle pink gas station
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Medicated resort jewess
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razzle pink gas station
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aggressive startled locus
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Adventurous Hairy Legs
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Spruce lay
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razzle pink gas station
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Adventurous Hairy Legs
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aggressive startled locus
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aggressive startled locus
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Jet pozpig national
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Emerald parlour mediation
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: aggressive startled locus



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: razzle pink gas station

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: aggressive startled locus

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Jet pozpig national

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: razzle pink gas station

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Jet pozpig national

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: razzle pink gas station

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Jet pozpig national

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: aggressive startled locus

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: razzle pink gas station

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Jet pozpig national

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: razzle pink gas station

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Jet pozpig national

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: aggressive startled locus



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: razzle pink gas station



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Maniacal Point Azn

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: razzle pink gas station

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone Maniacal Point Azn



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Yapping Laughsome Party Of The First Part Community Account

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: razzle pink gas station

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: flesh autistic senate regret

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: razzle pink gas station

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Medicated resort jewess

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: razzle pink gas station



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: aggressive startled locus



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Adventurous Hairy Legs

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Spruce lay

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: razzle pink gas station



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Adventurous Hairy Legs



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: aggressive startled locus



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: aggressive startled locus



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Jet pozpig national

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Emerald parlour mediation

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515738)