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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Supple national security agency rigpig
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base
  12/16/25
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Supple national security agency rigpig
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
glassy home kitty cat
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
glassy home kitty cat
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
glassy home kitty cat
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Supple national security agency rigpig
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
glassy home kitty cat
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
glassy home kitty cat
  12/17/25
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Supple national security agency rigpig
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razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Flesh Incel Boltzmann
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base
  12/16/25
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Flesh Incel Boltzmann
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
judgmental ocher library
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Honey-headed Dog Poop
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
arousing associate
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Supple national security agency rigpig
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Rough-skinned Station
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Sickened field
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razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base
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Rough-skinned Station
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Supple national security agency rigpig
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Supple national security agency rigpig
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
glassy home kitty cat
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Brindle vibrant stock car rehab
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Supple national security agency rigpig



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Supple national security agency rigpig

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: glassy home kitty cat

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: glassy home kitty cat

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: glassy home kitty cat

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Supple national security agency rigpig

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: glassy home kitty cat

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: glassy home kitty cat

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Supple national security agency rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Flesh Incel Boltzmann

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Flesh Incel Boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516177)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: judgmental ocher library

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Honey-headed Dog Poop

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: arousing associate

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Supple national security agency rigpig



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Station

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Sickened field

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle mentally impaired base



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Station



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Supple national security agency rigpig



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Supple national security agency rigpig



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: glassy home kitty cat

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Brindle vibrant stock car rehab

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515738)