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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Arousing Vermilion Temple
  12/16/25
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sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Motley narrow-minded menage
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Arousing Vermilion Temple
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Motley narrow-minded menage
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Arousing Vermilion Temple
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Motley narrow-minded menage
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Arousing Vermilion Temple
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Motley narrow-minded menage
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Arousing Vermilion Temple
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Motley narrow-minded menage
  12/17/25
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sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete
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Arousing Vermilion Temple
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Glassy exhilarant dysfunction
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Arousing Vermilion Temple
  12/16/25
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Glassy exhilarant dysfunction
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
high-end twinkling uncleanness
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Arousing Vermilion Temple
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Nofapping famous landscape painting
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Arousing Vermilion Temple
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
razzle slimy whorehouse internal respiration
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Arousing Vermilion Temple
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sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
supple pit ratface
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Irate federal degenerate national security agency
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Arousing Vermilion Temple
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supple pit ratface
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sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete
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sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Motley narrow-minded menage
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
iridescent filthpig
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Arousing Vermilion Temple

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Motley narrow-minded menage

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Arousing Vermilion Temple

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Motley narrow-minded menage

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Arousing Vermilion Temple

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Motley narrow-minded menage

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Arousing Vermilion Temple

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Motley narrow-minded menage

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Arousing Vermilion Temple

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Motley narrow-minded menage

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Arousing Vermilion Temple



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Glassy exhilarant dysfunction

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Arousing Vermilion Temple

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Glassy exhilarant dysfunction



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: high-end twinkling uncleanness

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Arousing Vermilion Temple

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Nofapping famous landscape painting

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Arousing Vermilion Temple

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: razzle slimy whorehouse internal respiration

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Arousing Vermilion Temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: supple pit ratface

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Irate federal degenerate national security agency

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Arousing Vermilion Temple



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: supple pit ratface



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: sapphire laughsome gas station keepsake machete



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Motley narrow-minded menage

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: iridescent filthpig

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515738)