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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Silver Racy National Half-breed
  12/16/25
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rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
garnet senate doctorate
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Silver Racy National Half-breed
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
garnet senate doctorate
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Silver Racy National Half-breed
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
garnet senate doctorate
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Silver Racy National Half-breed
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
garnet senate doctorate
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Silver Racy National Half-breed
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
garnet senate doctorate
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rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe
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Silver Racy National Half-breed
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Aquamarine Impertinent School Hominid
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Silver Racy National Half-breed
  12/16/25
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Aquamarine Impertinent School Hominid
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Balding space
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Silver Racy National Half-breed
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Excitant idiotic bawdyhouse clown
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Silver Racy National Half-breed
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Charismatic dun chapel
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rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Slate Haunting Knife Native
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Chocolate hyperventilating business firm friendly grandma
  12/17/25
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rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe
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rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
garnet senate doctorate
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Translucent low-t theatre
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Silver Racy National Half-breed

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: garnet senate doctorate

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Silver Racy National Half-breed

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: garnet senate doctorate

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Silver Racy National Half-breed

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: garnet senate doctorate

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Silver Racy National Half-breed

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: garnet senate doctorate

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Silver Racy National Half-breed

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: garnet senate doctorate

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Silver Racy National Half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Aquamarine Impertinent School Hominid

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Silver Racy National Half-breed

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Aquamarine Impertinent School Hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516177)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Balding space

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Silver Racy National Half-breed

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Excitant idiotic bawdyhouse clown

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Silver Racy National Half-breed

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Charismatic dun chapel

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Silver Racy National Half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516689)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Slate Haunting Knife Native

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Chocolate hyperventilating business firm friendly grandma

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Silver Racy National Half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516412)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Slate Haunting Knife Native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516560)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516683)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: rebellious canary stage sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516681)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: garnet senate doctorate

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Translucent low-t theatre

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515738)