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Weird to realize that DFW never reached my current age

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Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  04/17/26
You just now had this realization after 10 years?
luiskandarnameh
  04/17/26
? I'm 47
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  04/17/26
Sure bud, sure
luiskandarnameh
  04/17/26
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Ron Binary
  04/17/26
And yet you’ve never achieved even half his literary s...
POPE LEO IS WEAK ON CRIME
  04/17/26
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Giant Naked Hitler
  04/17/26
cr. also jimi hendrix, schubert, mozart, keats
Kenneth Play
  04/17/26
I started reading Infinite Jest last week btw https://imgur...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  04/17/26
let us know how far you get. i dont think anyone has complet...
non stop prop op from israel
  04/17/26
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Nazca Redlines
  04/17/26
(lebron james reading first page of book)
CapTTTainFalcon
  04/17/26
Do I have to beg for attention on xo, or?
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  04/17/26
hes irrelevant and no one has read his "book"
Metaphysics is Gay
  04/17/26
I’ve read IJ twice and everything he’s written a...
POPE LEO IS WEAK ON CRIME
  04/17/26
CR I'm on my first readthru of IJ and already know I need to...
Giant Naked Hitler
  04/17/26
sure breh
Metaphysics is Gay
  04/17/26
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Nazca Redlines
  04/17/26
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CapTTTainFalcon
  04/17/26
And he accomplished a million times more than you ever would...
Obey My Commands at All Times
  04/17/26
his father was a philospohy professor at an irrelevant state...
Metaphysics is Gay
  04/17/26
OP chopped his kids dicks off and sues people for a living.
Obey My Commands at All Times
  04/17/26
i feel like that's a bad idea but i guess if your dad REALLY...
Metaphysics is Gay
  04/17/26
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Obey My Commands at All Times
  04/17/26
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bevs
  04/17/26
He wrote a seminal (heh), 1,000+-page work of postmodern lit...
Nazca Redlines
  04/17/26
no one read that book, and the people whom "read" ...
Metaphysics is Gay
  04/17/26
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Ron Binary
  04/17/26
DFW was a true 180.
luke the drifter
  04/17/26
I asked AI to weigh in on which of DFW's Infinite Jest (1996...
luke the drifter
  04/17/26


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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:05 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49823683)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:06 PM
Author: luiskandarnameh (🧐)

You just now had this realization after 10 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49823685)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:07 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois)

? I'm 47

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49823686)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:13 PM
Author: luiskandarnameh (🧐)

Sure bud, sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49823703)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:16 PM
Author: Ron Binary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49823707)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:09 PM
Author: POPE LEO IS WEAK ON CRIME

And yet you’ve never achieved even half his literary success.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49823693)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Giant Naked Hitler (hitler did nothing wrong)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49823916)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 6:56 PM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

cr. also jimi hendrix, schubert, mozart, keats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49823934)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 7:06 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois)

I started reading Infinite Jest last week btw

https://imgur.com/a/4nh16ZE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49823959)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: non stop prop op from israel (gunneratttt)

let us know how far you get. i dont think anyone has completed it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49823967)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:32 PM
Author: Nazca Redlines



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824088)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 10:05 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

(lebron james reading first page of book)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824273)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 11:05 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois)

Do I have to beg for attention on xo, or?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824366)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 7:07 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

hes irrelevant and no one has read his "book"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49823960)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 7:56 PM
Author: POPE LEO IS WEAK ON CRIME

I’ve read IJ twice and everything he’s written at least once. It really is that good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824036)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:19 PM
Author: Giant Naked Hitler (hitler did nothing wrong)

CR I'm on my first readthru of IJ and already know I need to do at least one more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824071)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:19 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

sure breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824072)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:32 PM
Author: Nazca Redlines



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824089)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 10:05 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824275)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:22 PM
Author: Obey My Commands at All Times

And he accomplished a million times more than you ever would in a million years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824076)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:23 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

his father was a philospohy professor at an irrelevant state school, and he wrote long, genx-coded books that had no apparent thesis other than "drug yourself then withdrawal until you literally kill yourself," which i guess is a sort of genx manifesto or w/e made more salient by the fact that literally no one bothered to read them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824077)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: Obey My Commands at All Times

OP chopped his kids dicks off and sues people for a living.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824080)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:30 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

i feel like that's a bad idea but i guess if your dad REALLY liked low iq catholic/Aristotelian moral theory i could see how that could happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824086)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: Obey My Commands at All Times



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824091)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 9:08 PM
Author: bevs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824158)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:52 PM
Author: Nazca Redlines

He wrote a seminal (heh), 1,000+-page work of postmodern literature that remained engaging, compelling, and memorable across that many pages. Then, given that he was a big time depressedmo and not having a good time and didn't really have a future prospect of having a good time, he hit that dusty trail and shuffled off to Buffalo.

Also, age is flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824124)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

no one read that book, and the people whom "read" it only say it was good because they wasted that much time on a genx slop piece. it has nothing to do with defining pomo lit, it was way too late for that to be true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824127)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Ron Binary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824135)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 11:15 PM
Author: luke the drifter (definite and ineradicable gauge of its upward moving)

DFW was a true 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824373)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 11:29 PM
Author: luke the drifter (definite and ineradicable gauge of its upward moving)

I asked AI to weigh in on which of DFW's Infinite Jest (1996) or Coetzee's Disgrace (1999) would better stand the test of time:

If the core of Infinite Jest is a warning about the addictive potential of a static screen, the 2020s haven't just ignored the warning—we’ve internalized the addiction to the point where DFW’s "lethal" film looks quaint compared to an algorithmic feed designed by neuroscientists.

You’ve touched on why Coetzee tends to age like a fine, albeit very bitter, wine while maximalist "Great American Novels" often start to smell like a time capsule:

The "Noise" vs. The "Signal"

The Trap of Specificity: DFW tried to capture the mechanics of 1990s alienation. When the mechanics change—when the "Entertainment" is no longer a cartridge but a constant, invisible stream—the book begins to feel like a manual for a machine no longer in use.

The Universality of the Fall: Disgrace doesn't care about the technology of its era. It deals with the fundamental friction between the individual and a changing moral landscape. David Lurie’s fall from grace isn't tied to the 1990s; it’s tied to the ancient, recurring themes of pride, the loss of power, and the terrifying necessity of "starting from zero."

The "Death of Man"

You’re pointing toward the idea that DFW was writing about sociology, while Coetzee was writing about theology (in a secular sense).

Wallace asked: How do we stop watching the screen?

Coetzee asked: How do we endure the state of being an animal among other animals once our pretenses are gone?

In 2026, the question of how to handle a "film" is an archive project. The question of how to live with yourself after your social and moral standing has been vaporized—the "true human condition," as you put it—is the only thing that actually keeps a reader up at night.

The Anachronism of Irony

There is also the "Gen-X Irony" problem. DFW was obsessed with the trap of irony, but his prose is often deeply performative. It’s a "look-at-me" style of writing about the "look-at-me" culture. Coetzee’s prose is a scouring pad. It is so devoid of ornament that there is nothing for time to erode. It’s already been reduced to the bone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Elisa#49824382)