Both as a poaster and probably also as a person

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087571)

stancil is a guy who really wants to be in one camp but his strong conscience forces him back into another in all forms but in name. whoever also passes for "leftists" these days all seem to hate him and what he's trying to do, even though it is or at least was very sensible and good for americans' interests. look at his blue sky account if you want a few bitter laughs over how his compatriots treat him

the authoritarian right rips on him so much because they know he should be in their group, the "hatred of small differences" or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087576)

He obviously detests the people to the left of him much more than the people to the right of him. I've seen the bluesky stuff you mentioned and he very clearly holds those "people" in absolute contempt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087589)

re the last yeah maybe absolute contempt is too strong but he's obviously sick of it. the grok rape stuff is either going to make him non-political or convert him to the right, i'd bet. leftist cultural policies have undermined a once precedented and popular amongst working class dems FDR styled center-left strong executive platform, which is the closest thing in history i would compare him to. he was one of the last dem ideologues banging the economics drum well after most had moved on to more libidinal but also more frivolous cultural/social politics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087887)

He's very good at it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087896)

the debate to be had there is whether or not the ends justify the means regarding idk we'll say "MAGA" personal attitudes towards migrants in the process of politicking towards the end-goal, enforcement of immigration laws (which i think is sensible personally, even if it does suck for migrants with some "common status". shouldn't have opened the borders to begin with)

it still is the "politics of sadism" in its presentation. "alt right" people stopped caring about these critiques because even prior to the inception of an "alt right" political group these critiques were applied unevenly and only towards right wing causes while the makers ignored or outright denied, insulting viewer intelligence and observational agency in the process, instances of same-such occurring from left-wingers

really only so many times that you can hear "okay but have you considered being a decent fucking person?" in regards to not wanting your family members raped and killed by migrants or minorities or what have you without realizing that, for these sorts, it's less about the things being debated and more about a snarling expression of power through a perverse norm, but this is an aside to the point i'm making above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49088110)

i suspect he's mostly an entertainer who uses colorful rhetoric to build an audience, but who fundamentally wants to work within existing structures. his purpose is to adopt a facade of rebellion while quietly shepherding disaffected young men back to the GOP plantation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087599)

He used to openly talk about how he agitates for libs over the GOP because he believes that a lib-driven "accelerationist" collapse of society would result in a path to power for himself, whereas if the MAGA GOP is able to slow down or stop the bleeding, there's no hope for him to ever gain institutional power. He stopped openly talking about this at some point because people started bringing it up when he would be an openly bad faith actor toward right wing figures

He is an incredibly cynical and sociopathic person. Pretends to be a Christian when he's an atheist, pretending to be anti-covid vax when he's a germophobe who freaked out about covid at irl events, pretends to support a "multiracial" US and opposes "stupid wignats" despite having obvious 1488 beliefs, pretends to be a heterosexual "trad" person when he's a homosexual deviant

Normally this is the kind of person I'd actually like and respect, because he's such a clear-eyed and practical and ruthless person. But he's willing to burn down the entire world just so he himself can get power and influence. This is too much. It's okay to be cynical and power-hungry but having no values or vision outside of advancing your own personal interests is juvenile and shameful and no sophisticated or high quality person will want anything to do with you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087631)

Recently though it is now starting to carry an actual anti-white connotation as well because Fuentes now openly caters to brown non-whites since he realized he burned too many bridges among the cohort of actual pro-white, pro-American normal politically active white people

The guy just sucks and this is what ends up happening when you don't actually care about anything but yourself. He obviously hates doing this but he has painted himself into a corner where he now openly advocates against the very people and positions that he started out defending

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087660)

spencer types (groomed, CIA connections) as well as the smattering of jews on the alt-right come to mind more readily. yarvin for all of his other faults has a salt of the earth-enough disposition to entertain wignat stuff and this is a part of why i still like him

the proles are some of the only ones free enough from corporate (as in corporate, not "high business") life to have the freedom necessary to engage in truly "alt" political action much of the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087673)

A far as being a wignat goes the TRS guys were pretty close but that was a lubavitch jew op and even then Kike Penisbitch’s schtick was basically just repurposing racist antisemitism into having the same politics as some center left third wordlist heeb fist shaking at a bunch of slightly richer heebs a neighborhood over in a lot of ways as a character he is very similar to Cernovitch or even Liver King but again maybe I’m just saying that because they all seem to have emerged from the same cluster of annoying jew scammers

They’re all retards paid by jews or the government trying to sell some dogshit and that’s been the shot pretty much the whole time but sometimes it’s fun to talk about—if you are a true “wignat” so to speak you probably would have realized the shot a while ago and stopped listening to or engaging with any of these retards and done something productive which…what would that even be? Stay tuned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087756)

he wants to work within the system but not many on even the more extreme manifestations on the right don't; if you try to do anything but you run up against all sorts of walls---some of which, these are things few will believe you on---very, very quickly and you will find that top-down donor money will no longer be accessible for you

i don't think he's particularly serious either but he does "okay" as a touchstone on the road to something different. i find what he's done impressive in the sense that his following is constituted of mostly organic youth support and that he wasn't afraid to fire off against trump during the 2024 election (and still is, i think). the "tradcath" stuff is kind of silly and artificial (traditional? catholicism? 🤣) and i don't take that super seriously no matter who's into it. religious chauvinism is unfortunately a non-starter in the US due to whatever you'd call what the "culture of women" here has mutated into.

not to be a doomer or whatever but i think and have found that the market liberal system that oversees what can and can't be done in US politics is much more "total" and profuse than people just getting into politics seem to think. the only real group with enough elite and institutional support to break free atm are DSA types, and while i hate zohran's gay race communism policy i still hope that he wins so that *something* other than "more money for rich people" political policy is happening in the US and especially on the east coast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087639)

shitlibs were going down the same path last year when they were forcing themselves to defend biden/harris, but being freed of those millstones has made them a bit more interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087750)

to their credit, the dems seem more content with letting their party take hits if it means that the politics that people actually want are allowed to continue on actually existing and remaining capable of creating ideology. the republicans? ljfl. "betrayal" doesn't even begin to describe it. "betrayal", as a concept, would be too germane of a term for the situation that i witnessed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748357&forum_id=2Elisa#49087786)