Date: May 4th, 2025 10:53 AM
Author: turbofag
One thing you often hear in blue states is people saying, “What’s with these red-state people voting against their interests? Don’t they know that the Democrats have better policies for them, that they want to give them universal health care and raise the minimum wage?” And one explanation for that is, “Well, the Democrats don’t sound pissed off the way Dave Moss sounds pissed off.” Like, if you’re a person who’s being fucked over—
Well, how about this? How about Democrats haven’t been able to decide who they wanted for their Democratic nomination for three elections? [Bernie] Sanders won it both times, and they said, “Nah.” So, like, why have the primary? They didn’t want him, because he was gonna go after the stuff that’s paying all the corrupt people. And these are liberals! And then you see all this shit that the right-wing people are doing right now, banning books and stuff like that, and liberals are freaking out about that, and it’s, like, you guys were doing that four or five years ago!
You mean with social media?
No, I mean at colleges. They were way overstepping bounds. It’s, like, “Dude, I’m sending my kid there to get an education, not for him to be brainwashed with your extreme ideology, to the left or to the right.” So if you’re on the left, what you feel right now, watching what they’re doing, is how they felt. Now, I’m not saying which is more valid. That’s not my place to make that decision for you. But I feel like most people are in the middle and have been covering their heads for the past twenty years, being, like, “What the fuck?”
If you look at the news, what do they show? When they show a Trumper, they just show the dumbest person they could find, going, “Donald Trump’s a genius. That’s what the ‘J’ stands for.” Right? And then to show a liberal, they show that woman crying when Trump first got elected. That is not an accurate portrayal of either side. Those are crazy people. And then, meanwhile, Democrats and Republicans all got on the same page and agreed that they can’t be tried for insider trading. So, like, what the fuck are we doing here?
One of the most divisive things in this country has been Hollywood award shows. These fucking idiot actors—the way they talk down to red states that they’ve never been to is the exact same way idiot rednecks talk about California. How are you going to get the other side to hear your opinion when you just insult them and don’t listen to them? That’s like people on the right: “What are you, a libtard?” That is the internet. The internet is you start your point off with “Hey, fuckhead.” Who’s listening after “fuckhead”?
The main tension I want to push on here is that it seems like—you said yourself that you have to remain apolitical, because it’s what you do. You have to be able to have the freedom—
But I’m also apolitical because I look at it for what it is.
Sure.
And these guys are just bullshitting me. They’re all bullshitting me.
Sure. But let’s say that, hypothetically, there was more bullshit coming from one side than the other.
More bullshit that you don’t agree with.
Well, O.K. “Don’t agree” is one thing. But there’s a difference—let’s just stay on the example of education. It’s totally true that a lot of universities skew to the left ideologically. But there’s a difference between that and the government arresting you for your speech, or banning a book. Right?
Yeah, but how do you get there? There’s stepping stones. Why is there Fox News? Because there was CNN. All of this shit—no President has been allowed to be President since the first Bush. Once they went after Bill Clinton for lying about a blow job, everybody else—George W. Bush: he stole the election. Obama: he’s not from here. Trump: everything that he did. Joe Biden: “Let’s get something on him. We can’t get something? Oh, his kid does cocaine.” How does it help us if a certain percentage of the President’s day is dealing with the other side trying to take him out and impeach him, which is never gonna happen?
I hear that. But—
Listen. This is my deal. O.K.? These guys who are in power right now, they’re trying to set my people—which is white people—they’re trying to get us back to the mind-set of, like, pre-civil rights. There was a shame, for a while, to being racist, and now there’s a pride to it. And that’s—racism weakens the country. If you wanted to make it a strong country, you would include everyone. And then to watch them taking away these books that explain what my people did . . . first of all, it’s, like, do you think they’re gonna forget? Haven’t we done enough to Black people? Haven’t we done enough to at least just acknowledge what we did? The fact that you’re gonna take that away is just—it’s evil. It’s evil after evil.
So here’s the thing. As a white person, you can’t just be like, “Oh, my God, those red-tie people.” You need to move. You need to do something.
That whole MeToo movement, it started off with something that everybody agreed with. “Hey, we need to get rid of all of these freaks sexually assaulting women and using their position of power for sexual favors.” Who was against that, other than people who were doing it? And then all of a sudden, within two years of that, it morphs into, “I don’t like what you’re saying in your standup act.”
I am careful to assess each thing—what am I getting behind? So what I am behind right now is trying to bring the boiling water down to a simmer. And I would like the rational people on both sides to be running stuff again.
Are we gonna talk about the play, or am I just gonna come off as this political guy?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720281&forum_id=2Elisa#48902699)