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Murder victim’s sister taunts killer abt prison rape that awaits him
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 12:34 PM Author: Violent insanely creepy tattoo https://x.com/bengoldey/status/1948056851595014466?s=46 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124683) |
Date: July 23rd, 2025 12:42 PM Author: Avocado rambunctious tanning salon Prison rape is rare and this victim impact statement is out of bounds and inappropriate. She cursed and said had her sister been awake she would have “kicked your fucking ass”. What’s the point of saying that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124710) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 12:42 PM Author: exhilarant rough-skinned circlehead oh brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124713) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 12:45 PM Author: Avocado rambunctious tanning salon An impact statement should never be a call to violence or a celebration of it. I hate how these have become melodramatic emotional outbursts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124721) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 12:48 PM Author: Mahogany kitchen crotch What terrifies me is if a psychopath disembowels a bunch of coeds and hangs them up by their entrails, imagine the verbal backlash against the peaceful psychopath at his sentencing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124730) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:05 PM Author: Violent insanely creepy tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124776) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 6:04 PM Author: carnelian internet-worthy roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125643) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 8:29 PM Author: Flickering slate orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125997) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 7:19 AM Author: Vivacious School (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126713) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 3:34 PM Author: buff nighttime gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125224) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 12:42 PM Author: Mahogany kitchen crotch a considered moderate take (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124714) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 12:43 PM Author: orange brunch About 75,000 men are raped to death in U.S. jails and prisons every year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124717) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 12:45 PM Author: exhilarant rough-skinned circlehead Normally because they cum uncontrollably and prisons are very anti gay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124722) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 3:41 PM Author: Idiotic National Haunted Graveyard you’re very likely to rape your own kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125236) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:11 PM Author: At-the-ready buck-toothed mood headpube Goddamn you're a fag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124796) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:43 PM Author: Infuriating antidepressant drug ticket booth cr she should have been held in contempt and put in jail for 24 hours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124889) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:44 PM Author: Infuriating antidepressant drug ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124892) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:08 PM Author: Elite Market Stain Ok now I’m certain you’re a parody account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125514) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 6:05 PM Author: carnelian internet-worthy roommate To be fair,
IMPORTANT REMINDER TO XO LIBS: This mental giant who is thoooooo outraged by this and is focused on tone policing a serial killer victim's impact statement while simultaneously smugly explaining that ackkkkkkkkkkkkshually, prison rape is "rare" -- he's on your "team." This is one of "your guys."
Congrats! |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:47 PM Author: hideous thirsty menage I agree and am Liberal
—Paralegal Muhammad
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 11:02 PM Author: ivory cumskin french chef I don't know about rape, but aside from the obvious chomo cases, I can't think of a more obvious type of offender to be violently assaulted in prison than this guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126360) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 12:46 PM Author: Claret shivering resort women need to just stfu. somebody please smack this bitch to death. cringe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124725) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 11:25 PM Author: Chest-beating Purple Elastic Band Hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126393) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 8:02 AM Author: Chocolate Thriller Organic Girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126753) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:07 PM Author: Tan mind-boggling stage victim impact statements are gay and wishing prison rape on someone is prole as fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124783) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:44 PM Author: Infuriating antidepressant drug ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124890) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:48 PM Author: Coral Bearded Public Bath Internal Respiration i don't mind wishing it, but thinking that expressing it out loud and on the record to the murderer is accomplishing anything meaningful is stupid he killed 4 people in cold blood as if he gives any fuck about what a good person a victim was and how you've deprived her of a life, blah blah blah performative art |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 3:34 PM Author: buff nighttime gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125225) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 8:02 AM Author: Chocolate Thriller Organic Girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126755) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 8:07 AM Author: Mildly autistic razzle water buffalo coldplay fan Really Weird how there were so many posters brave enough to call LTM a fag for basically saying the same thing but nobody does here. TBF, you're response? Others above? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126762) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 8:18 AM Author: fantasy-prone school cafeteria poor rc? ltm gives a thoughtful moderate take that THIS vi statement is bad because it went too far. everyone else ITT is saying that all vi statments are stupid and gay.
u can see the cum dripping out of ltm's asshold. |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 8:20 AM Author: Mildly autistic razzle water buffalo coldplay fan Blah blah blah the "vibes" are off! Certainly not a bunch of politishit hacks who are too pussy to fight a real poaster and can only dare punch down to their pre-approved punching bag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126786) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 9:01 AM Author: fantasy-prone school cafeteria wtf are u babbling about. i have no idea wtf ur saying (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126873) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:08 PM Author: black magical base voyeur trashy bitch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124787) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:09 PM Author: Bright passionate hell This is incredibly pathetic and cringe. Wish the perp killed this retarded bitch instead of the one that died (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124790) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:13 PM Author: contagious candlestick maker Why not just say that you're hurting and miss your loved one? Also, what if his plan is to sell his ass for Big D? Maybe that's what he wanted all along. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124801) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:38 PM Author: Rose overrated regret It’s because of her dad. He hasn’t been at all happy about this outcome and he was complaining in the news both about the plea and about the local police’s supposed delay in investigating thoroughly. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124874) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 8:42 AM Author: soul-stirring cobalt double fault He should have Gary Plauchéd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126823) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:49 PM Author: Coral Bearded Public Bath Internal Respiration saying that you're hurting and missing your loved one instead of the lame bullshit is how you get a judge to jump a joint rec and go harder on the defendant to be fair, i don't think the judge can jump this any higher |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:19 PM Author: galvanic persian it’s frustrating that our official deterrents for heinous crimes are so weak that we have to resort to extralegal rape to scare the perpetrators. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124820) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:24 PM Author: Violent insanely creepy tattoo no that’s actually a good system. I could absolutely handle being locked in a cage for years and given free room and board. what I can’t handle is D Block’s cock up my ass. It’s the only reason I don’t do white collar crime (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124833) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:29 PM Author: galvanic persian that’s the point. doling out punishment to evil murderers and rapists that they can easily handle isn’t necessarily that effective. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124851) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:49 PM Author: Coral Bearded Public Bath Internal Respiration it's the only reason i do white collar crime (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124912) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:26 PM Author: lake racy knife Fact check: 3 pinnochios. He's likely to either be separated from gen pop or be a celebrity or have the protection of the Aryan Brotherhood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124841) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:42 PM Author: Exciting Chartreuse Home Also, he looks the type to push back on that Big D. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124886) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:51 PM Author: Coral Bearded Public Bath Internal Respiration co ed killers get aryan brotherhood protection? you always hear how rapists and child molesters are at the bottom of the totem pole, but i've never heard what happens to these guys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124920) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:13 PM Author: Cerise Locus Cuckoldry So he’ll be taking teeny tiny aryan brotherhood dicks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125534) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:43 PM Author: Infuriating antidepressant drug ticket booth victim impact statements were a terrible idea when they passed iir sometime in the 90s or maybe that was for fed court. anyway they are always prole and ridiculous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124888) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:50 PM Author: At-the-ready buck-toothed mood headpube Who gives a shit. Let them say their peace. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124917) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:14 PM Author: Fragrant Party Of The First Part Okay but what if you pretended the guy wasn’t a jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125537) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:19 PM Author: fantasy-prone school cafeteria the entire concept of vic impact statements is totally absurd when you think about it.
why is whatever victim impact relevant to punishment? should you be punished worse if you murder a perfect white girl prom queen straight a student, than if you murder some piece of shit dreg of society like benzo who nobody gives a fuck about and who would have nobody give a victim impact statement if he were murdered? yes maybe as a practical matter, but that's not justice.
second, what the fuck is the point of them in cases such as this where the sentence is mandatory and the judge has zero discretion? |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:50 PM Author: Infuriating antidepressant drug ticket booth they were passed in the 90s iirc with an easy 'win' for prole gop state legislators and prosecutors who were gunning for office. proles love the idea of being able to call someone a "monster" in court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125602) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:58 PM Author: Fragrant Party Of The First Part “It’s prestigious to never do anything bad or mean to a jew ever. I know this because I’m a dumb kike like DBG.”
Great poast. I love jews. |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 9:01 PM Author: fantasy-prone school cafeteria wtf are u babbling about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126054) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:40 PM Author: Infuriating antidepressant drug ticket booth I converted to Catholicism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126312) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:52 PM Author: Fragrant Party Of The First Part I don’t give a shit you’re a kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126337) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 1:15 AM Author: Infuriating antidepressant drug ticket booth You can't say that after I converted. It doesn't make any sense. I have accepted salvation through Jesus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126524) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 10:10 AM Author: Fragrant Party Of The First Part Yes I can
You’re a piece of shit kike get the fuck away from my church, thanks |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 7:17 AM Author: fantasy-prone school cafeteria these laws dont have anything to do w actual sentencing - just a right to speak? lol americans love mouthing off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126709) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 11:38 AM Author: Glittery Filthy Senate Old Irish Cottage yes you fucking kike retard it matters a lot more if you murder a gangbanger vs. a gorgeous 18 year old girl that all of society will benefit from for 40 years
per your logic all of jews should be genocided for their actions in palestine but you dont think that youre just a fucking shifty kike that thinks goys dont see your bullshit youre all going to ovens ffs |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:50 PM Author: crimson love of her life This doesnt constitute "rape" it just says he will get Big D in prison. That 100% cld be voluntarily, many inmates enjoy the pleasure of Big Black Cock in prison. I know if I was locked away that's the thing I wld mainly be happy abt each day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124913) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:50 PM Author: Mahogany kitchen crotch it may be an incentive to commit crimes, if anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124919) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 3:35 PM Author: buff nighttime gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125227) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:19 PM Author: cowardly garnet azn death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125552) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:53 PM Author: Adventurous Property Digit Ratio Maybe that was his motive all along (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49124930) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 3:25 PM Author: histrionic crusty prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125207) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 4:19 PM Author: Fragrant Party Of The First Part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125314) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 4:20 PM Author: Poppy Boyish Giraffe (George20) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125316) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 3:07 PM Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe He's gonna get punished too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125153) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 4:20 PM Author: Fragrant Party Of The First Part Women are annoying and shouldn’t be allowed to talk but this Coalbugger guy deserves a lifetime of prison rape for being a dumb creepy jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125317) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 4:21 PM Author: Wonderful Temple Unfortunately she's reliant on media portrayals of prison. IRL prison rape is rare and they mostly play basketball and watch TV all day. Part of our crime problem is that our prisons aren't nearly harsh enough, crimebros aren't afraid of them-- why should they be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125320) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:10 PM Author: obsidian geriatric nursing home How would getting gang-raped on the reg by beefy cholos make it harsher? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125520) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:27 PM Author: Wonderful Temple Ironically to make it harsher we would prevent them from having sex not encourage rape or whatever. Most of the sex is enthusiastic and the guards don't even really try to prevent it ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125568) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:12 PM Author: cerebral crawly round eye I have a friend who spent the majority of his life in a Level 3 yard. He is the only person I have ever seen shoot at someone irl (the beefy prison cholo he shot at almost lost his head by 3 inches) He refers to Level 4 guys as "animals" One of my good buddies did 9 years on Level 4 in Corcoran (I was there at the same time but I was not Level 4) and he is indeed a fucking animal. The guy referenced in OP is heading to Level 4 and will absolutely get fucked up so badly that he will be put in PC, that is if they don't send him there straight from Reception Anyway rape is rare but vicious assaults are not, im talking first hand EDIT: Nevermind, didnt realize this is kohberger, he will not even be considered for Levels 3 or 4 due to no gang affiliation or other violent tendencies. PC right away |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:28 PM Author: Wonderful Temple The vicious assaults are a good start, but we need more like that. Like, American prisons will literally keep gangs and races separated to keep violence down. This is backwards, they should be encouraged to kill each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125569) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:33 PM Author: obsidian geriatric nursing home How was the rape? Did you cum? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125574) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:52 PM Author: Infuriating antidepressant drug ticket booth great choice of friends (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125607) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:02 PM Author: spectacular frum halford lawyers are a bunch of faggots: Exhibit A (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125495) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 5:06 PM Author: Fragrant Party Of The First Part “What a PROLE! She was MEAN to a JEW!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49125509) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 6:25 PM Author: Fear-inspiring hall Weak writing. Needed more Strunk ‘n White power behind it.
“I’ll be depositing $20 a month in your commissary account. I want you to use it for lube so that you don’t get fucked to death the first week. I want you to last.”
And then follow through with the $20 and make that bitch think of you every month when he spends your cash and eats your ramen. |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 8:23 PM Author: Bright passionate hell https://x.com/GodCloseMyEyes/status/1948077879603913146
"I listened to her full statement and didn't hear this line but the entire thing was like a leftist quote tweet or a reddit post. felt like she was going to call him an incel. also partly sounded like she may be sexually attracted to him.
she probably didn't like that he murdered her sister but if I were being honest with him I would say that he still has a shot." |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:58 PM Author: histrionic crusty prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126350) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 11:26 PM Author: Chest-beating Purple Elastic Band Hospital Why do courts allow these stupid victim impact statements to be read in court? They are useless and embarrassing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126396) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 11:31 PM Author: Tan mind-boggling stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126403) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 7:22 AM Author: fantasy-prone school cafeteria discussed above: https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&mc=79&forum_id=2#49125550 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126717) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 7:25 AM Author: Hairless Address american prison rape is mostly a black thing, and there aren't that many blacks in idaho's system. tossed salads guy from the reach my climate documentary sort of stuff isn't as common in idaho. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126719) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 7:59 AM Author: Chocolate Thriller Organic Girlfriend The glee of libs at this is very telling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49126752) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 10:13 AM Author: Violent insanely creepy tattoo Wow cons ITT are very upset about this murderer getting talked to like that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753717&forum_id=2Elisa#49127000) |