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Product management--what the fuck is this flame and how do I get a job doing it?

Do you need a degree in CS or EE to cop a gig like this? Or ...
Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency
  10/19/16
It's 100% flame you can talk your way into.
translucent hyperventilating friendly grandma lodge
  10/19/16
Not flame? Seems like a decent paying gig.
Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency
  10/19/16
you get paid to be yelled at 24/7 to meet unrealistic deadli...
Tan Internet-worthy Lay
  10/19/16
What do you have to deliver by your "deadline"? Wh...
Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency
  10/19/16
well, if you're a shitty PM when the project is late you bla...
Tan Internet-worthy Lay
  10/19/16
YES but what the fuck do you DO? What service do your provid...
Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency
  10/19/16
You're basically a middle man between devs and HR/management
translucent hyperventilating friendly grandma lodge
  10/19/16
you take the specifications from the customers and you bring...
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  10/19/16
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Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle
  06/11/26
you figure out what features shoudl be in your product (base...
Infuriating swashbuckling public bath
  10/19/16
Doesn't actually seem like a bad job.
Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency
  10/19/16
it ranges. at the grunt level you are a project manager and ...
Infuriating swashbuckling public bath
  10/19/16
I'm assuming they make decent money too
Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency
  10/19/16
genrealyl slightly less or similar as a good developer d...
Infuriating swashbuckling public bath
  10/19/16
How would one transition into this kind of work ? Like what...
Azure orchestra pit preventive strike
  10/19/16
most common - programming or MBA. you can get into it from d...
Infuriating swashbuckling public bath
  10/19/16
Did you have a law background at all?
Azure orchestra pit preventive strike
  10/19/16
It's not bad considering that PM's know literally nothing an...
translucent hyperventilating friendly grandma lodge
  10/19/16
I know a bro who went from a product counsel at a tech compa...
bearded feces
  10/19/16
They like to see certs on your resume. Pmi.
Diverse Spruce Pistol
  10/19/16
What kind of certs?
Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency
  10/19/16
Project management institute comes up a lot. Spill over to l...
Diverse Spruce Pistol
  10/19/16
Okay so basically just bullshit and not like learning code o...
Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency
  10/19/16
Yeah, these are not stem types. More like biz Mgmt.
Diverse Spruce Pistol
  10/19/16
you just manage products and tell them what to do bro. occas...
Infuriating swashbuckling public bath
  10/19/16
So basically you just crack the whip on the code spergs?
Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency
  10/19/16
A lot of people with general business degrees in it, anythin...
Dark Erotic Main People Property
  10/19/16
ur thinking of project management product mgmt is differe...
Infuriating swashbuckling public bath
  10/19/16
Lol I did the same thing.
Diverse Spruce Pistol
  10/19/16


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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:11 PM
Author: Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency

Do you need a degree in CS or EE to cop a gig like this? Or is it more sales/business/research oriented?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679381)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:12 PM
Author: translucent hyperventilating friendly grandma lodge

It's 100% flame you can talk your way into.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679386)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:14 PM
Author: Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency

Not flame? Seems like a decent paying gig.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679408)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:18 PM
Author: Tan Internet-worthy Lay

you get paid to be yelled at 24/7 to meet unrealistic deadlines and deal with ornery software developers and make barely 10-15% more than they do.

IMHO not worth it as a career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679426)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:19 PM
Author: Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency

What do you have to deliver by your "deadline"? What's the BOTTOM LINE?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679440)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:21 PM
Author: Tan Internet-worthy Lay

well, if you're a shitty PM when the project is late you blame the team. 'You' don't technically have to deliver anything but a project plan and status reports.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679447)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:23 PM
Author: Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency

YES but what the fuck do you DO? What service do your provide to your company?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679464)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:24 PM
Author: translucent hyperventilating friendly grandma lodge

You're basically a middle man between devs and HR/management

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679476)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:29 PM
Author: bisexual balding philosopher-king den

you take the specifications from the customers and you bring them down to the software engineers. you deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679511)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: cosmic penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#49930447)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: Words of Affirmation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#49930527)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 12:19 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡±)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#49930554)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:27 PM
Author: Infuriating swashbuckling public bath

you figure out what features shoudl be in your product (based on customer interviews, market research, competitive reseach etc)

you plan out how those features should be implemented, and work with your programmers and other teams to make it happen

you also figure out how your product should be marketed and priced (based on market research, nubmer crunching etc)

at the high level, you figure out strategic product direction, like what you should be making, what it should look/feel like, etc. (jonathan ive/apple type)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679496)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:32 PM
Author: Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency

Doesn't actually seem like a bad job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679527)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:35 PM
Author: Infuriating swashbuckling public bath

it ranges. at the grunt level you are a project manager and just run around pushing people for updates and deadlines etc.

it can be really boring/stupid too. at the jr level you are developing spec docs that say "and when you click this button on the website it brings you to this page. if you click this other button it brings you to this other page"

at the mid/sr level its more interesting as you are more involved in setting direction of the product (3 of our competitors have xyz feature, so we will build it, or we will not build it because we think abc feature is more compelling and will get us more users, etc etc)

at the very sr level as with all jobs it's pretty good but stressful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679554)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:50 PM
Author: Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency

I'm assuming they make decent money too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679668)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:53 PM
Author: Infuriating swashbuckling public bath

genrealyl slightly less or similar as a good developer

depends on the type of company too - if you are at a traditional enterprise software company, you'll make significnatly less. at goog you will make more as they require pms to be former developers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679701)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:54 PM
Author: Azure orchestra pit preventive strike

How would one transition into this kind of work ? Like what's the job you take before you become a PM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679715)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 4:04 PM
Author: Infuriating swashbuckling public bath

most common - programming or MBA. you can get into it from design, marketing, operations, project management type roles as well. really if you work at a startup and are smart/capable you'll touch/influence the product at some point. that's how i got into it.

you can also get hired directly out of college but those are usualyl the gruntwork type roles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679805)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 4:05 PM
Author: Azure orchestra pit preventive strike

Did you have a law background at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679818)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:22 PM
Author: translucent hyperventilating friendly grandma lodge

It's not bad considering that PM's know literally nothing and are often times actual retards. Everyone in tech who isn't actual talent should be grateful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679456)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:21 PM
Author: bearded feces

I know a bro who went from a product counsel at a tech company and then pivoted into being a product manager and he's now a director.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679450)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:22 PM
Author: Diverse Spruce Pistol

They like to see certs on your resume. Pmi.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679458)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:25 PM
Author: Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency

What kind of certs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679482)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:26 PM
Author: Diverse Spruce Pistol

Project management institute comes up a lot. Spill over to lean six sigma mumbo jumbo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679494)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:31 PM
Author: Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency

Okay so basically just bullshit and not like learning code or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679522)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:37 PM
Author: Diverse Spruce Pistol

Yeah, these are not stem types. More like biz Mgmt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679572)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:24 PM
Author: Infuriating swashbuckling public bath

you just manage products and tell them what to do bro. occasionalyl you have to discipline or fire one and it gets to be a pain but otherwise pretty chill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679478)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:25 PM
Author: Brindle up-to-no-good black woman national security agency

So basically you just crack the whip on the code spergs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679485)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:26 PM
Author: Dark Erotic Main People Property

A lot of people with general business degrees in it, anything from "business administration" or finance/accounting/econ or MBAs and other grad types.

The job is just babysitting a project. You don't really do actual work. You check with other groups who do the actual work to make sure they're doing it and let everyone know where everyone else is.

Basically everyone hates you because you are constantly pinging them for updates ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679495)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:27 PM
Author: Infuriating swashbuckling public bath

ur thinking of project management

product mgmt is different

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679506)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:38 PM
Author: Diverse Spruce Pistol

Lol I did the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Elisa#31679579)