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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
heady meetinghouse hairy legs
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Insecure Provocative Lay
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Henna dingle berry fanboi
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
supple step-uncle's house foreskin
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Henna dingle berry fanboi
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
supple step-uncle's house foreskin
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Opaque rebellious feces
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cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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Magical ceo
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: heady meetinghouse hairy legs

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Insecure Provocative Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Henna dingle berry fanboi

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: supple step-uncle's house foreskin

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Henna dingle berry fanboi

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: supple step-uncle's house foreskin

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Henna dingle berry fanboi

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Misunderstood Electric Becky Stag Film

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Rambunctious excitant address electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Confused flesh trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Opaque rebellious feces

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Histrionic senate

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: pontificating racy elastic band

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Misunderstood Electric Becky Stag Film

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Magical ceo

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Vengeful den philosopher-king

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Bistre site roast beef

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49105022)