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At what point do you kill your family dog?

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of h...
Wes Scantlin
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  12/01/25
https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-c...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  12/01/25
Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Gettin...
Wes Scantlin
  12/01/25
Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place....
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  12/01/25
Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think w...
Wes Scantlin
  12/01/25
Good luck.
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then ...
Megathor lives!
  12/01/25
check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding
cyberman
  12/01/25
if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if yo...
(*)>
  12/01/25
No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can g...
Wes Scantlin
  12/01/25
unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't al...
(*)>
  12/01/25
tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that y...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/01/25
bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisti...
(*)>
  12/01/25
It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to ...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/01/25
How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance c...
concern boner
  12/01/25
Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a w...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/01/25
are you mentally retarded
fulano
  12/01/25
Show your work. I’ve shown mine If some vet tomorro...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/01/25
how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and...
fulano
  12/01/25
Wait 6 months
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/01/25
loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart
fulano
  12/01/25
Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools ...
concern boner
  12/01/25
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.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  12/01/25
I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigatin...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  12/01/25
Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the...
concern boner
  12/01/25
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yooper
  12/01/25
i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscio...
NSAM's Schizoid Conspiracy Advent Calendar
  12/01/25
I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitat...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  12/01/25
cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog a...
Darnell
  12/01/25
Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, esp...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/01/25
when you're hungry
CapTTTainFalcon
  12/01/25
That’s always tough and there’s no right answer....
december to remember
  12/01/25
just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have s...
Covid was a Hoax
  12/01/25
when the wok is at a rolling boil
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cannon
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Orion Kerkering's Panic Attack
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Roblox
  12/01/25
PAGING metaphysics is gay the poaster
i love women tp
  12/01/25
I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insa...
Lab Diamond Dallas Trump
  12/01/25
i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. ...
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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: Wes Scantlin

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of her. Unfortunately, she has a collapsing trachea, which will progressively worsen until it suffocates her to death. Could be months, could be years. In the meantime, I can pay $5,000 for a tracheal surgery which could more or less “cure” the issue but even then she’s looking at maybe 5 years tops. I’m also Poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474553)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if the vet is ripping you off. Get a few other second opinions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474558)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:05 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-cost



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474580)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: Wes Scantlin

Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Getting multiple opinions though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474589)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place.

If not, I recommend some veterinary schools. They may be cheaper, especially if you allow them to work with students on the dog (it would be supervised by faculty).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474597)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: Wes Scantlin

Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think we have a couple nearby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474630)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:43 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474905)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: Megathor lives!

I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then don’t do it, just put the dog to sleep when it’s time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474569)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: cyberman

check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474573)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: (*)> (i'm in your city)

if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if you don't and really can't afford the $5k, it might old yeller time...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474577)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: Wes Scantlin

No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can get it cheaper. It’s hard to kill something over money. Obviously there’s a threshold but WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474583)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: (*)> (i'm in your city)

unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't already have insurance. your vet records will show that the tests for this condition predate the policy. still try though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474588)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that you dont show them?

is there some national database of vet records?

one weird trick: cant op just get insurance now and keep quiet about any vet records in existence and let do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474598)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: (*)> (i'm in your city)

bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisting conditions the insurance conundrum is solved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474614)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to be hidden because most people are not just going to random doctors but having their claims submitted to major national insurance companies so there’s essentially a national database of your medical record through insurance claims.

For dogs its not the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474674)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: concern boner

How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance company will demand to see as a condition of coverage and will scour for any sign of breathing issues?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474642)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a walk in clinic for shots and I have those records. There’s no records of annual checkups or blood work or anything that would document any physical condition our dog has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474668)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: fulano

are you mentally retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474676)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


Show your work. I’ve shown mine

If some vet tomorrow said my dog had a major problem, I’d never mention that visit. I’d simply show the insurance company the records of the walk in clinics where we’ve gotten vaccines over the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474692)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: fulano

how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and report a collapsing trachea to them tomorrow, even if its a lie. lets see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474756)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:31 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


Wait 6 months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474854)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: fulano

loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474658)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: concern boner

Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools often have discounted rates so vet students can learn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474609)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474613)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigating a case against a state insurance regulator and got a bunch of their internal emails, and they absolutely RIP on pet insurance. They use it as a shorthand for a scammy worthless product.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474913)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:10 PM
Author: concern boner

Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the surgery instead. Otherwise put down the dog if it looks very uncomfortable all the time. This should be a high bar, though.. Dogs are very resilient and adapt to most shit that life brings them. *takes gun out of mouth* we can learn a lot from them, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474599)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: yooper (πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡±)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474657)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: NSAM's Schizoid Conspiracy Advent Calendar (gunneratttt)

i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscious. my ex (a vet) and i got in a big fight over this. it seems extraordinarily selfish consider $5k could make a lot of other pets (and humans) lives much better.

with kids you could mentally frame it as paying for their happiness but if youre poor your money is better spent elsewhere imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474611)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitation. That said, my last dog (a giant dog too) beat cancer twice, was a diabetic, lived to 13 and all of her care combined was under $10k. I never spent $5k on any single thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474617)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:16 PM
Author: Darnell

cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog and think about how excited your kids will be about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474621)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, especially in an expensive area like where OP seems to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474679)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

when you're hungry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474626)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: december to remember

That’s always tough and there’s no right answer. My last dog didn’t make it quite to 11 and went pretty quick, natural time for the breed. But I told myself if it ever looked like he was suffering I’d take him out for all the cheeseburgers he could eat and then give him a lethal dose of meds and sit there with him till he was gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474690)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Covid was a Hoax

just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have some shitlib couple pay for the surgery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474693)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,;:,:,,:,.,:,::,..;.,:,.:;.:.,;.:.,:.::,


when the wok is at a rolling boil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474698)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: cannon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474712)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: Orion Kerkering's Panic Attack



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474737)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: Roblox



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474915)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: i love women tp

PAGING metaphysics is gay the poaster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49474942)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump

I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insane but you gotta save the dog. Even at $5k, you're renting the dog for $80/month. I'm sure if you asked your kids if they'd rather skip eating out once a month or kill the dog, they'd choose the former. This is a crossroads where you can put them more on the route to becoming autoadmit sociopaths or make them more normal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49475049)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. at 11, the dog may die in 2-3 yrs even with the surgery -- of something related to the condition, or of other old age shit. the surgery doesnt guarantee him living until 16 by any means. that being said, i totally agree that you've got to save the dog but shop around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Elisa#49475054)