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Finished Bukowski's Ham on Rye (1982)

I finished Bukowski’s Ham on Rye (1982), which is appa...
Ultramarine point
  06/17/25
Nobody cares. Bukowski sucks and you’re a retarded fag...
Exhilarant immigrant
  06/17/25
This is exactly what Bukowski would say.
gay hominid brethren
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hairless blood rage ceo
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This is just what we needed the boring thoughts of an idioti...
Aggressive Brilliant Pit
  06/17/25
whoa crr
Titillating plaza
  06/17/25
MPA is highly supportive of this because he is low iq and je...
Exhilarant immigrant
  06/17/25
The distinction between my response and his might be that he...
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Ultramarine point
  06/17/25
id like some elaboration here
Frum amber black woman
  06/17/25
Mother was both nurturing but also extremely passive aggress...
Ultramarine point
  06/17/25
“I’m a kike!” How groundbreaking. You m...
Exhilarant immigrant
  06/17/25
That’s a long time to eat a sandwich.
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Date: June 17th, 2025 6:21 AM
Author: Ultramarine point

I finished Bukowski’s Ham on Rye (1982), which is apparently his most famous novel along with his first, Post Office. It is a semi-autobiographical novel about his youth - born in Germany, raised in Los Angeles, always a poor outsider, wisecracking and fast talking, his loves were alcohol and writing. He developed terrible acne as a teenager which made his outsider status worse but even that was something he accepted and suffered through.

The book is lovely, an easy and flowing read. Bukowski discusses the difficulties of life and he does it in a wry, direct, honest and disarming style. One can’t help but love the guy - he’s got such a defined voice.

He states that he’s neither a misanthrope nor a misogynist in the book, and I think at least the second part is true for him - for the first, he uses alcohol to dull the pain of existence. However, Bukowski, for all his self-loathing and rawness, seemed to channel his suffering into a grudging acceptance of the human animal - ugly, dirty, and laughable, yes, but not necessarily evil. He’s disillusioned, yes, but rarely metaphysically embittered. The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical.

I’ve read all of Bukowkski’s poetry online (https://www.best-poems.net/charles_bukowski/index.html) and will continue to read more of his works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023314)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:17 AM
Author: Exhilarant immigrant

Nobody cares. Bukowski sucks and you’re a retarded faggot.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:20 AM
Author: gay hominid brethren

This is exactly what Bukowski would say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023370)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: Ultramarine point



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:33 AM
Author: Frum amber black woman



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:37 AM
Author: Razzle tank roommate



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:38 AM
Author: Sinister bright multi-billionaire



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:39 AM
Author: hairless blood rage ceo



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Aggressive Brilliant Pit

This is just what we needed the boring thoughts of an idiotic faggot. Kill yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023361)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Titillating plaza

whoa crr

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:19 AM
Author: Exhilarant immigrant

MPA is highly supportive of this because he is low iq and jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023364)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: territorial navy nowag yarmulke

The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023382)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: Ultramarine point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023386)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Frum amber black woman

id like some elaboration here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023391)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Ultramarine point

Mother was both nurturing but also extremely passive aggressive and never respected my emotional red lines, which felt on a subconscious level, to a young child, like deep betrayal and which has warped my relationship with all women thereafter.

My philosophical pessimism and gnosticism is well documented here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023397)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:40 AM
Author: Exhilarant immigrant

“I’m a kike!”

How groundbreaking. You might be the next bukowski.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023457)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: galvanic coiffed quadroon

That’s a long time to eat a sandwich.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023700)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: sadistic sexy chad



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Date: June 17th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: Ultramarine point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49025197)