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"AI" is borderline just a scam now lol

guys like altman are just knowingly lying about current and ...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
That's the art of the deal
bungulator
  11/26/25
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Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
I can't even get grok to get my new imagine wife to show me ...
Reinhard Heydrich Uunona
  11/26/25
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Adolf Hitler Uunona
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Amateur Millennial Butt Porn
  11/26/25
It's Over
Juan Eighty
  11/26/25
sounds like it aced the turing test.
real men wearing real watches
  11/26/25
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the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/26/25
SV is a uniquely scammy culture where tech cos have been all...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/26/25
Ilya Sutskever's new company has 30 billion in VC funding an...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
In my adult life I've made something like 1,000x more money ...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/26/25
TWTR was incredibly lulzy. For years it was mind-boggling th...
Juan Eighty
  11/26/25
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Paralegal Mohammad
  11/26/25
180. Accurate, intelligent, concise. The only other thing...
Refunkulus
  11/26/25
Good post. SV is good at displacing shittier industries gene...
SneakersSO
  11/26/25
Um yeah it has already. A handful of things actually. Junior...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  11/26/25
I follow the legal industry fairly closely and am not aware ...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/26/25
So good for us regular people who need to stay employed?
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  11/26/25
no because it will take a while to take advantage of current...
Nothing Ever Happens
  11/26/25
are pretty much all programmers fucked?
Paralegal Jahangir
  11/26/25
to be clear, everyone is fucked unless you're in the elite t...
Nothing Ever Happens
  11/26/25
If we could just get it where it would stop hallucinating la...
scholarship
  11/26/25
Going to be funny when your AI watches Secretary and starts ...
Amateur Millennial Butt Porn
  11/26/25
This will absolutely backfire on me and lead to my death
scholarship
  11/26/25
I understand why it might feel that way from your perspectiv...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
doesn't the LLM model have a theoretical and a practical lim...
Paralegal Jahangir
  11/26/25
doubt it. that shit will probably just keep SCALING AND SCAL...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
can't tell if this is sarcasm
Paralegal Jahangir
  11/26/25
I’m partially kidding. I don’t think it will be ...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
are the non-diminishing returns in the (online) room with us...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
nah they'll come though I promise
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/1993719651495547061 btw...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
"We know that LLMs can't generalize" what does ...
Nothing Ever Happens
  11/26/25
it means that LLMs can't generalize, Champ LLMs can only ...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
yes but give me a specific example of what you are talking a...
Nothing Ever Happens
  11/26/25
well, LLMs *aren't* trained on the entirety of human knowled...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
you are right that they aren't trained on "all of human...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
they can't generalize to all legal cases they just can't ...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
I'm not a lawyer, I need an actual example. If you're tr...
Nothing Ever Happens
  11/26/25
try it with whatever domain you're an expert in. they're alr...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
lol this is not what cant generalize means and it’s al...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
GoySuperstar is the go-to source for AI analysis
So we looked at the data
  11/26/25
its a complete scam if youre talking about the companies act...
Covid was a Hoax
  11/26/25
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SneakersSO
  11/26/25
lol what it can do is already more impressive than robocops ...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
like what?
Covid was a Hoax
  11/26/25
Lol. Look I'm not trying to go full peter thiel here (I act...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/26/25
but what if we end up building flying cars soon with all of ...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
Then that's great. Right now I've got a website that gave m...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/26/25
nanotech was based on speculative capability claims, many of...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
It was also the domain of a set of fields and industries tha...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/26/25
"its useful for "what temperature should i cook a ...
Nothing Ever Happens
  11/26/25
It’s just too spammy right now. Everything feels sligh...
Smoker
  11/26/25
many products are scams for sure. However there are lots tha...
dj clue
  11/26/25
good point imo. scientists are lazy....
SneakersSO
  11/26/25
It's interesting how cynical so much of the board is about A...
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  11/26/25
There is no "conventional wisdom." It's just peopl...
SneakersSO
  11/26/25
conventional wisdom doesn't even support AI though. there ar...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
The people who are decisively wrong are the ones who think i...
SneakersSO
  11/26/25
yeah I agree with that. there are multiple arguments that go...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
because they're lawyers one of my favorite all time xo po...
Nothing Ever Happens
  11/26/25
"AI" is just freshman linear algebra, sophomore st...
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Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
I suppose you also think jet engines are "just" so...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
I do think the “agents” moment is pretty open en...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
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AI is only going to get better. GPT 5 seems way better than ...
coiffed sandwich
  11/26/25
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VoteRepublican
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

guys like altman are just knowingly lying about current and future projected capabilities. it's really obvious by now that LLMs are not going to make any more qualitative leaps, and the "scaling hypothesis" no longer holds

i'm not saying that LLMs won't keep getting marginally better, and that people will find very useful ways of implementing them in practice - they will. but any talk of "AGI" or generalized capabilities in LLMs is at this point knowingly and deliberately misleading and meant to deceive the public and investors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462237)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: bungulator

That's the art of the deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462243)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462348)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:35 AM
Author: Reinhard Heydrich Uunona (✅🍑)

I can't even get grok to get my new imagine wife to show me her tits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462370)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:16 AM
Author: Adolf Hitler Uunona



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462463)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: Amateur Millennial Butt Porn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462482)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Juan Eighty

It's Over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462613)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:12 PM
Author: real men wearing real watches

sounds like it aced the turing test.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462650)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:31 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462872)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:02 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

SV is a uniquely scammy culture where tech cos have been allowed to huck futuristic bullshit to a public and a market that doesn't fully understand the tech and is desperate for something to speculate on. Compare this to say, the biotech or pharma fields, where they could theoretically do the same thing but the regulatory environment is oppressive enough to where it's reigned in the culture, so ppl shy away from hype even if that hype wouldn't actually get you cracked down on. (I always say that if Elizabeth Holmes had just stuck to SV bread and butter instead of making a fake blood testing machine, she'd 100% be a billionaire, and probably have moved on to CEO of an incumbent firm, today.)

As big a problem as (maybe bigger than) the technologists themselves is VC. The firms VCs invest in aren't publicly traded, so there's no opportunity to short, resulting in a field where no one shits on anyone else's investment and it's a pure one-way positive feedback loop. Venture capitalists are known to get catty and defensive as fuck at the most gentle/accidental passing criticism from other VCs, because that's not how the game is played and everyone should know that a rising tide of hype raises all fraud ships.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462432)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

Ilya Sutskever's new company has 30 billion in VC funding and when asked how they are going to make money, he straight up did not have any answer. didn't even pretend like they had a plan

meanwhile actual american businesses in industries that actually make and do important stuff can't get any funding at all

"private equity" sure seems like nothing more than an entire "industry" of pump and dump scamming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462450)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

In my adult life I've made something like 1,000x more money on crypto than the stock market, despite investing MORE in the latter.

I am by no means some deep ideological believer in crypto, but when TWTR reached a market cap of $60B while posting growing YOY losses as their -4% profit margin widened--with no plan for doing anything different; dorsey would just give different answers everytime he was asked, and that other turdskin would just start babbling in hindi or whatever and hope that the white-girl CNBC reporter would start to wonder if she picked out the wrong turd from the conference room and just abashedly back away--I really started to appreciate the comparatively Sound Fundamentals of the BTC fake (and never actually used) internet-money market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462485)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: Juan Eighty

TWTR was incredibly lulzy. For years it was mind-boggling that it was included in bigtech indices despite producing minimal revenue

and then it turns out its value prop the whole time was being a shiny object to the world's richest sperg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462624)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462477)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:14 PM
Author: Refunkulus (I Always Post Always TP)

180. Accurate, intelligent, concise.

The only other thing I would add is that VC switched from a risk sharing model (1970s to around 2008) where partners at the firms would contribute their own capital; to a risk shofting model (2009-Present) where VC funds mostly gather assets and then stuff junk into funds and charge a fee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462654)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: SneakersSO

Good post. SV is good at displacing shittier industries generally. So GOOGL grew by Ruining newspapers and magazines and shit. FB grew by being better than "scrapbooking" or "yearbooks" or something. AI needs to find something shittier and more useless than AI, and use AI to Ruin it. Discuss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462684)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:59 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


Um yeah it has already. A handful of things actually. Junior associates at law firms, entry level accountants, project managers, customer service reps, translators, junior copywriters, early career MBA excel jockeys and junior programmers. It should eventually replace K-12 or at least K-8 teachers, but the unions will slow that process down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462771)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:08 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

I follow the legal industry fairly closely and am not aware of any reduction in associate force stemming from AI. Weirdly, I'm not even aware of anyone *claiming* that, which would be the very first thing I'd do if I had to make normal economically driven layoffs at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462797)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


So good for us regular people who need to stay employed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462458)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐)

no because it will take a while to take advantage of current capabilities. knowledge workers are still fucked. it's more along the lines of "don't expect some kurzweilian self-perpetuating singularity or massive societal reorganization within the next decade"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462460)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:16 AM
Author: Paralegal Jahangir

are pretty much all programmers fucked?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462466)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐)

to be clear, everyone is fucked unless you're in the elite tier of your profession. yeah law is a cartel and blah blah blah but the free market will ultimately win (obviously shitlaw and stuff is different, talking about biglaw and the types of "professions" which really just leach off regulations and byzantine corporate structures)

it won't happen overnight though. our Gen is probably still largely fine, maybe we'll have to maek it as policemen at 50 or something. but anybody under 30 and especially those coming out of college now are going to experience a much different job market

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462481)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: scholarship

If we could just get it where it would stop hallucinating law then it would be huge. I’ve started trying different threats in prompts and it seems to help a little. Like I’ll tell it a law problem and then say “you’re my genius associate who always double checks his case law because he doesn’t want to go back in the Punishment Closet”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462473)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Amateur Millennial Butt Porn

Going to be funny when your AI watches Secretary and starts making mistakes on purpose so that you yell at it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462486)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: scholarship

This will absolutely backfire on me and lead to my death

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462489)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

I understand why it might feel that way from your perspective but it isn’t reality. You think it plateaued due to a human cognitive bias toward assuming diminishing returns which doesn’t hold in this case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462488)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: Paralegal Jahangir

doesn't the LLM model have a theoretical and a practical limit for accuracy and usefulness?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462537)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

doubt it. that shit will probably just keep SCALING AND SCALING in ways we currently CANT EVEN FATHOM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462556)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:52 AM
Author: Paralegal Jahangir

can't tell if this is sarcasm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462584)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

I’m partially kidding. I don’t think it will be a smooth exponential with unbounded scaling but plateau arguments are almost certainly wrong. I think it will follow q somewhat smooth scaling law until some constraint gets in the way and then architecture changes will cause a phase shift that breaks through the constraints. But it’s already superhuman on most cognitive tasks so idk what you want more from it anyway? Even in the areas experts still outperform it it will usually be due to human representation and semantic quirks. Pretty much all of the things human mathematicians still outperform it on are like that — issues where humans represent things in specific ways so other humans can understand the ideas and also because of human limits in perception and cognitive bandwidth and this throws the model off structurally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462701)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

are the non-diminishing returns in the (online) room with us right now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462552)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

nah they'll come though I promise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462554)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:47 AM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/1993719651495547061

btw i was completely right about models being specifically RL trained to perform on evals, and that's the reason why they're performing increasingly well on evals while overall capabilities are stagnating (duh)

machine learning pumo here didn't believe me, but now we've got the leading guys in the industry admitting it outright

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462562)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:09 PM
Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐)

"We know that LLMs can't generalize"

what does this even mean? I don't think anybody ever trained an LLM on Pathfinder 1E rules but it does a decent job of sorting through something that is comically in depth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462645)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

it means that LLMs can't generalize, Champ

LLMs can only produce stuff that's within its training distribution. everything outside of its training is Inaccessible for the LLM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462653)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐)

yes but give me a specific example of what you are talking about given that LLMs are trained on the entirety of human knowledge and media

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462671)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

well, LLMs *aren't* trained on the entirety of human knowledge. that's the point. they're trained on the stuff in their training data (a bunch of words that definitely don't include all human knowledge)

for example, in l*w: LLMs do a pretty good job, actually, of evaluating and "reasoning" about cases that have the same structure as other cases in their training data. but any remotely novel kind of legal case, and they totally fail

humans *can* generalize, at least to a far greater extent than LLMs. we can see a completely novel legal case and reason about it pretty well. we can create a mental model of the whole case and think about it accurately and coherently. LLMs can't do that at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462704)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

you are right that they aren't trained on "all of human knowledge" although what they are trained on is massive and much larger than what a human could learn in several lifetimes, but there are real knowledge gaps. the idea they cant generalize to novel legal cases is BS though. for instance GPT 4 passed the bar exam and current models have far surpassed gpt 4. its failure mode in law is pretty much the exact opposite of what you said--the issue is that it DOES generalize based on a huge corpus and generate answers that are *plausible* but not authoritative, because it will be something humans decided arbitrarily in case law that has authority, but it could have gone several different ways

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462739)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:55 PM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

they can't generalize to all legal cases

they just can't do this, you can try it yourself

making shit up that doesn't work and doesn't make sense is not "generalization"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462760)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:08 PM
Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐)

I'm not a lawyer, I need an actual example.

If you're trying to do something truly novel LLMs struggle, but this is like <1% of all knowledge work. To be fair law probably lags behind other fields in data training just because a lot of stuff is just locked behind privatized paywalls, but this will inevitably change over time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462801)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

try it with whatever domain you're an expert in. they're already trained on westlaw etc btw

they just can't generalize, it's as simple as that. it's why AI implementation is lagging so much. if LLMs were really capable of generalization, they could be plug and played into virtually any role. but they can't, so they aren't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462885)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

lol this is not what cant generalize means and it’s also wildly false

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462706)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:17 PM
Author: So we looked at the data

GoySuperstar is the go-to source for AI analysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462828)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:40 PM
Author: Covid was a Hoax

its a complete scam if youre talking about the companies actually becoming profitable. its ability to generate pictures and music is really impressive but i dont see how theres big money in that. people will lose interest in that crap if its just computer bs. its useful for "what temperature should i cook a 14lb turkey at" type stuff, but theres no real money in that. itll wipe out a lot of useless white collar jobs that never should have existed i guess, like ib analyst or lawyer. but the idea that its going to lead to robocops staffing mcdonalds drive thrus while proles get their nom on is ridiculous. thats not happening in the next 50-100 years and probably never will in the us. companies like google dropped the ball with making their search engines so shitty (they used to be infinitely useful) and ai fags picked up search from the gutter with their swords.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462722)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:45 PM
Author: SneakersSO



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462735)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

lol what it can do is already more impressive than robocops staffing mcdonalds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462748)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: Covid was a Hoax

like what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462756)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

Lol. Look I'm not trying to go full peter thiel here (I actually think the tech is impressive, will likely end up an invention whose importance/disruptiveness is roughly the order of the internet, and could still possibly be a truly transformative enlightenment/industrial revolution-level innovation), but watching fags who made a 1480 on the SAT talk about how actually, it's not disappointing at all that we don't have flying cars and have generally, in everyone else's view, vastly underperformed the widely shared technological predictions of our youth -- it's just as impressive that a chat website can spit out partially wrong screeds about information collected from the internet! -- is really weird, and suggests something about these people aside from just being credulous futurists. Maybe a weirdly high fear of death? Of disappointment in society? Of an over-valuing of society over smaller social units (family) and overinvestment in the belief that we were on the cusp of transformation? I dunno.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462777)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

but what if we end up building flying cars soon with all of the extra cognitive power supplied by AI?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462786)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

Then that's great. Right now I've got a website that gave me some just-okay protein shake recipes (certainly not as good as some I got from trashy listicle men's-health sites) and, when it came time to brine the turkey this year, I went to NYT instead.

Are you maybe a few crucial years younger than me? Were you not around for Nanotechnology?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462854)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

nanotech was based on speculative capability claims, many of which required breakthroughs in physics, manufacturing and materials that never occurred. It was science-first speculation whose engineering pathways never converged. AI is the opposite. It's trajectory is grounded in empirical scaling already demonstrated across modalities and industries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462879)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

It was also the domain of a set of fields and industries that did not have--and I am giving a serious and considered numerical estimate here--2% of the fast-talking, pomade-haired, pin-suited straw-hatted hucksterism of SV.

Imagine if The Music Man got to shill techno-utopia as a replacement for the fent epidemic, instead of shitty brass-band instruments as a replacement for pool halls. That's what we're dealing with here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462909)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:17 PM
Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐)

"its useful for "what temperature should i cook a 14lb turkey at" type stuff, but theres no real money in that."

that's retarded. that's like the people who said "but there's no money in search lmao" 30 years ago and google now prints dizzying sums of money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462823)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Smoker

It’s just too spammy right now. Everything feels slightly off

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462741)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: dj clue

many products are scams for sure. However there are lots that are incredibly useful. I use the following on a daily basis:

NotebookLM

AI call notetaking (Otter or similar)

Claude/ChatGPT/Gemini projects for doing first drafts of stuff where I simply want to drop in voluminious notes/documents and let it do what it do

More broadly, AI is going to be game-changing in may fields, particularly science. It analyzes the literature on a subject and analyzes experimental data much more quickly than previous methods. I'm also told it can design novel drugs/enzymes/ etc. I expect the pace of scientific advances to increase, with unpredictable results.

I expect the capabilities of AI within current use cases will get better, and that new use cases will emerge. I still think it's going to eliminate the need for a lot of human mental work, with unpredictable consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462743)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: SneakersSO

good point imo. scientists are lazy....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462783)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:09 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,......,;:.,.:..:.,:,::,.


It's interesting how cynical so much of the board is about AI when it seems obvious to just about everyone else that this technology will transform life as we know it within the next 5-10 years. I know it's the tone of the board to knock down everything conventional wisdom supports, but that instinct is wrong in this case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462806)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:14 PM
Author: SneakersSO

There is no "conventional wisdom." It's just people extrapolating off of the internet. But you could buy stuff on the internet in 2000. It didn't take much imagination to imagine what it would turn into.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462816)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:16 PM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

conventional wisdom doesn't even support AI though. there are midwits all over substack and reddit constantly saying these same things that AI is totally nbd and has plateaued and whatever else. xo just always trends cynical on everything and in this case i'd argue they are aligned with other pseud boards like reddit and substack

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462822)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: SneakersSO

The people who are decisively wrong are the ones who think it's dumb compared to humans. Those people are idiots afaik. But this is a separate from the question of Monetization imho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462835)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

yeah I agree with that. there are multiple arguments that got brought up itt including people saying the tech itself has plateaued. I agree that most AI startups are flame and that even current profitable AI companies are basically just getting subscription fees right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462841)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐)

because they're lawyers

one of my favorite all time xo poasts I lost track of many years ago was a pretty big thread where everyone shit on the outrageous sum of money facebook spent acquiring instagram. it was 1 billion dollars and instagram would go on to be the very reason facebook thrived even as its core platform became entirely boomers. in fact primary thing facebook was actually good at was picking which companies to buy early on (instagram and whatsapp have been insane returns on investment)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462833)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: tats

"AI" is just freshman linear algebra, sophomore statistics and $1 trillion in wasted electricity.

Notice the leaps these charlatans make in describing their product.

AGI (like the stat in warcraft) used to be AI used to be Machine 'Learning' used to be Linear Regression.

Name ONE (uno) (1) novel invention or one nontrivial scientific discovery that is for the benefit of humanity and is not sophistry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462865)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462889)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

I suppose you also think jet engines are "just" sophomore fluid dynamics and thermodynamics, CPUS are "just" semiconductor physics, and MRI is "just" 19th century electromagnetism with 1940s NMR tacked on right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462891)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


I do think the “agents” moment is pretty open ended at this point. It’s conceivable that models and product evolution will get to a point that an agent can be easily trained to do a lot of useful stuff, but as of today it’s a sufficiently labor intensive and hyperiterative guess and check type of process that it’s not likely to spread far outside of AI evangelist circles. To me the parallels to the e-commerce adoption process between 99-2012 are still the best analogy and though it might not be quite as slow a process I suspect most of the grand visions that evangelists love to project is a 2030s timeline after some correction and on the far side of a period where both the models and app companies prove they can survive and chart a course to durable and substantial profitability, just like we saw with dotcoms/ecommerce and social media and cloud and rideshare apps and streaming.

Just comparing to ecommerce there were these secondary and tertiary problems that had to be properly solved re logistics infrastructure, global supply chains, payment systems, digital marketing and advertising, compute infrastructure etc. that spurred all sorts of massive innovations and spawned entirely new lines of business that were even more profitable and strategic, and that’s before you even get into the massive benefit that accrued to a company like Amazon when the iPhone came along/was so good and mobile quickly became the primary use case. We’re in the 99-00 phase of the investment hype cycle but AI companies are already working out various solutions to eg the energy demand problem as a macro limitation, but it’s problems along those lines that need to be credibly and durably solved to unlock adoption and implementation levels that will actually justify the current insane levels of investment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462867)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: coiffed sandwich

AI is only going to get better. GPT 5 seems way better than GPT 3. This is like saying in 1993 that you don't see how the internet will really change commerce that much because all you're able to do is send messages without the post office. It's only been around for a few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462887)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: VoteRepublican (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?)

TiTcR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2Elisa#49462890)