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Markets react positive to Trump's Big Bill
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Date: May 21st, 2025 11:30 AM Author: doobsian heady hall https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/21/us-treasury-yields-investors-monitor-budget-bill-discussions-.html
Treasury yields moved back to levels that have pressured the economy and financial markets in the past as investors feared a new U.S. tax bill could worsen the country’s budget deficit, a risk highlighted in a Moody’s downgrade of the U.S. credit rating to end last week.
The 30-year Treasury bond yield was up almost 5 basis points at 5.012%, breaking above the key 5% level for the second time this week and hovering near its highest since January. The 10-year yield was more than 5 basis points higher at 4.533%, returning to levels that caused turmoil in the markets back in April and played a part in President Donald Trump pausing his stiffest tariffs. |
Date: May 21st, 2025 11:31 AM Author: yellow autistic orchestra pit electric furnace this is also why bitcoin is pumping. markets think trump's policies are insane and retarded-that they are destroying the us. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950655) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 5:02 PM Author: shaky area Trump makes crypto look like a safe haven. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48951740) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 11:35 AM Author: Impressive Pearly Cruise Ship Regret America no confidence vote by the world financiers https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/21/a-fundamental-regime-shift-could-be-underway-as-investors-rethink-us-assets-ecb-says.html |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 11:57 AM Author: misanthropic wonderful step-uncle's house striped hyena Lol wow america might be fucked so bonds backed by America go up. Save it Jews, we've heard it before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950764) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 11:59 AM Author: ocher provocative university Yields going up means its higher risk, genius (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950773) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:02 PM Author: misanthropic wonderful step-uncle's house striped hyena No shit. My statement still stands somehow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950787) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:23 PM Author: orchid point voyeur It’s still startling just how stupid MAGAs are.
No wonder you’re a government employee Shaniqua that couldn’t hack it in the private sector. Fucking loser. |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:30 PM Author: misanthropic wonderful step-uncle's house striped hyena Aren't you obeezy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950905) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:31 PM Author: orchid point voyeur Aren’t you a government employee who couldn’t hack it in the private sector? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48951663) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:00 PM Author: passionate athletic conference no one has read the bill
the bill has just left committee
the bill will be changed bigly by senate
this will all take months
fuck this is all so tiresome and retarded |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:04 PM Author: doobsian heady hall dont neeed to read it all. huge tax cuts when we are already at world war level deficits isn't good for debt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950795) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:06 PM Author: Aromatic Hell But but DOGE canceled a study on horseshoe crabs that wasted $18,000!
DOGE staffers are saving taxpayers $57,000 per year by watering the plants in their office building themselves!! |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:08 PM Author: doobsian heady hall "DOGE's claimed savings represent a small fraction of the overall US federal deficit. While DOGE has claimed to save around $150 billion, this figure is not broken down with transparency and likely overstated. The US federal budget for the last financial year was $6.75 trillion. A $150 billion savings is equivalent to approximately 2.2% of the total budget."
Also, majority of that savings was doge just cutting foreign ais. Basically those cuts save us less than one year of inflation on the deficit-- ie no impact to the actual deficit. |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:19 PM Author: misanthropic wonderful step-uncle's house striped hyena We'll default eventually. I wouldn't be surprised if the next three card monte game is in 'stable' coins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950853) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:22 PM Author: doobsian heady hall never default. just inflate away the debt
We are doing QE when unemployment is 4.2% and markets are near all time highs.
We didnt start QE until the GFC was in full swing and unemployment was 6.7% and rising. |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:24 PM Author: misanthropic wonderful step-uncle's house striped hyena I guess our default will be no longer servicing our debt in dollars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950875) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:21 PM Author: passionate athletic conference this is the state of politics and why everything sucks. a fucking draft of a bill you know nothing about that will change dramatically when it finally gets past congress and you've already made up your mind. about something that doesn't even really exist yet that you haven't even looked at.
unless it's budget neutral or positive you will dismiss it. ignoring the reality that even if trump wanted that he could never achieve it since he has to go through congress. so even if he pulls off a miracle and significantly reduces the rate of deficit spending, retards like you will go "NOT GOOD ENOUGH!"
you retards get hoodwinked over and over because you buy the idea that they'll fix everything overnight and are inevitably disappointed when that doesn't happen. you're like a degenerate buying lotto tickets every night. |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:23 PM Author: doobsian heady hall Doing nothing is 100x better than this bill you jew.
If they do nothing, those 2017 tax cuts expire for people (but not the 2017 tax cuts for corporations lol). |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:26 PM Author: passionate athletic conference are you retarded? "do nothing" as in "not pass a budge at all?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950886) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:29 PM Author: doobsian heady hall not pass any tax changes.
obviously they are putting everything in 1 bill so that people can make retarded comments like you said. but honestly, yes no budget is legit better. |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:40 PM Author: passionate athletic conference oh ok so you're a cow goes moo libertarian and not a serious person.
i agree with you, i hope they do pass a budget surplus. i also hope congresses passes a law giving me the ability to compel women to perform fellatio on me. i hope they pass a law that gives me a pony and a house made of chocolate. |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:42 PM Author: doobsian heady hall oh yes because the fed govt on hold is not a serious thing and yet it has happened half a dozen times in the last few presidents
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:43 PM Author: doobsian heady hall lol faggot kike im a socialist. not a libertarian u 5'6" kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950953) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:44 PM Author: misanthropic wonderful step-uncle's house striped hyena Are you really? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950956) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:47 PM Author: doobsian heady hall "socialist" in the sense that the govt should be for the people. basic things like healthcare, education, safety, and food should be easily accessible for the masses.
let capitalism do its thing and get people rich. tax them higher than lower income people and then upon death another big tax bill to help send that wealth/value created by society back to society. crazy shit |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:52 PM Author: misanthropic wonderful step-uncle's house striped hyena Ummm...I have a few points to make that might not fit well with your aspirations...
I'm in favor of perishable money btw https://www.threefolding.org/download/2006-11-001.pdf |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:51 PM Author: passionate athletic conference you're a retard and blather endlessly about shit you are clueless about. for example the moody's downgrade was last week but because you don't read, let alone understand, anything you're taking an msnbc article at face value even though the causations don't align in time. they're not downgrading a soverign's credit rating because of the first draft of next year's budget retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950977) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:55 PM Author: doobsian heady hall ? i think you responded to the wrong poast
"they're not downgrading a soverign's credit rating because of the first draft of next year's budget retard"
stuff like this i never said and would never say. tyia |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:30 PM Author: passionate athletic conference you created this thread which is about treasury yields increasing due to the moody's downgrade and tying that to proposed budget but yields began rising last week and before the budget left the committee. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48951659) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:34 PM Author: doobsian heady hall "you created this thread which is about treasury yields increasing due to the moody's downgrade " link?
i never said that kike. please stop making up arguments no one said here. its weird when you "Debate" someone not here and pretend its me |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:40 PM Author: passionate athletic conference did you even read the first sentence of your op? god you're so fucking stupid.
Date: May 21st, 2025 11:30 AM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6)
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/21/us-treasury-yields-investors-monitor-budget-bill-discussions-.html Treasury yields moved back to levels that have pressured the economy and financial markets in the past as investors feared a new U.S. tax bill could worsen the country’s budget deficit, a risk highlighted in a Moody’s downgrade of the U.S. credit rating to end last week.
The 30-year Treasury bond yield was up almost 5 basis points at 5.012%, breaking above the key 5% level for the second time this week and hovering near its highest since January. The 10-year yield was more than 5 basis points higher at 4.533%, returning to levels that caused turmoil in the markets back in April and played a part in President Donald Trump pausing his stiffest tariffs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2#48950652) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:46 PM Author: doobsian heady hall you seriously think ""you created this thread which is about treasury yields increasing due to the moody's downgrade " is the same as "a risk highlighted in a Moody’s downgrade"
So, if I say A is causing the problem, but B writes a story about A, then I am really saying B is causing the problem?
jfc you are a DUMB KIKE which is the worst. |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:54 PM Author: passionate athletic conference "you're saying x"
"where?'
"your first sentence"
"i didn't say that, it's a quote from the article."
THAT YOU POASTED IN A THREAD YOU TITLED "Markets react positive to Trump's Big Bill"!!
this is such consuela levels of sophistry and just like him you start screaming KIKE when you're the one engaging in maddening sophistry.
welcome back tt6 i'm looking forward to more of your retarded musings about economics that you have never once been right about. how's the housing market going? when's dat crash? |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:57 PM Author: doobsian heady hall again, i said market is reacting to the bill. jfc u retard. NOT THE MOODY'S DOWNGRADE. also link to any housing crash i predicted? i actually never predicted one, but you probably think someone saying prices are stupid high means that person is stating there will be a crash. you are benzo level dumb just without the meth |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:57 PM Author: passionate athletic conference wrong again stupid i am on amphetamines (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48951729) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 5:20 PM Author: nudist trip milk scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48954556) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:25 PM Author: orchid point voyeur “MAGA adds $3.7 trillion to debt - here’s why that puts the US on the path to fiscal restraint.”
- MAGA farm animals |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:25 PM Author: doobsian heady hall while cutting medicaid lol
fuck poors! |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:24 PM Author: orchid point voyeur ”GOP adds $3.7 trillion to debt, creates financial uncertainty increasing cost of borrowing - why that’s actually a GOOD thing!”
- Genius MAGAs of XO |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:25 PM Author: doobsian heady hall "debt market people are dumb, we are giving them MORE and they are upset!?!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950880) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:28 PM Author: passionate athletic conference that's not what i'm saying at all retard. i'm saying people's knee jerk reactions about shit they don't know about and will change dramatically by the time negotiations are finished is so fucking tiresome. everyone has already made up their mind even before this because they just go with their partisan biases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950894) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:28 PM Author: orchid point voyeur So you’re going to go ON THE RECORD that this bill at least be budget neutral right?
Or nah? :-) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:32 PM Author: passionate athletic conference of course not. why would you think i'm saying that?
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&mc=23&forum_id=2#48950860 |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:31 PM Author: doobsian heady hall (guy making the point that we dont know if this adds $3.5T or $4.0T to the deficit so we shouldnt complain about it)
(same guy who in 1941 told his fellow jews not to worry about the camps because they dont know if they are going to the shower chambers on arrival or after working for a few months) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:34 PM Author: passionate athletic conference i'm saying you should judge things on what outcomes were achievable. oh and judge things after they've occurred and not on speculation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950924) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:40 PM Author: doobsian heady hall the only "achievable" outcomes here are $3.5T to $4.0T added to the deficit for the benefit of the top 5% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950946) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:56 PM Author: Thirsty swashbuckling theatre famous landscape painting what % probability do you ascribe to the budget deficit being < 2T?
okay ill answer for you, it's 0.0001%, reflecting the chance of a world catastrophe that changes everything in the new few weeks
so, we don't need to wait, we know the bounds, and they are awful for everyone who cares about the future beyond 10 years from now (not you HLS boomer!) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 1:18 PM Author: passionate athletic conference i do care about the future and want to reduce the debt, which is why it's so frustrating talking to utopian morons getting irate that something impossible didn't happen. we probably have a very similar ideal budget in mind. the only difference is that i judge things on how close it aligns with my ideal and whether progress is being made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48951038) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:25 PM Author: orchid point voyeur We can already definitively guarantee the GOP will, as they absolutely always do, blow out the deficit bigly and then complain about Dem fiscal irresponsibility.
I know you worship Trump but come on bro. Grow up |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:28 PM Author: passionate athletic conference beez you're such an annoying low-effort faggot. i criticized trump bigly for cutting taxes without spending reduction offsets when it happened. unlike you who replied to me about BIDEN'S 180 INFASTRUCTURE for four years i don't judge people on partisan alignment and have criticized trump for many things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48951652) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:30 PM Author: orchid point voyeur Lmao no you didn’t, faggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48951661) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:43 PM Author: passionate athletic conference why the fuck would i lie and say i did and continue to criticize him for that if i'm a trump dickrider that never criticizes him? i am criticizing him for it right now anyway so it doesn't even matter whether i did in the past too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48951692) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:47 PM Author: doobsian heady hall warning: the above poaster is a dumb kike. please disengage with him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48951705) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 4:57 PM Author: orchid point voyeur And yet you still CHARGE in to defend him in every thread lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48954480) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 12:32 PM Author: domesticated rigpig genital piercing imagine a movement centered on tanking the US economy so Elon fucking Musk can get a tax cut. he's not even a legal immigrant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48950916) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 4:49 PM Author: shaky area Why does Trump need $5 trillion this year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48951711) |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 6:29 PM Author: histrionic field nowag *yawn*
This dip will be 75% erased by tomorrow morning. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 5:09 PM Author: doobsian heady hall ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48954516) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2025 5:21 PM Author: histrionic field nowag Give it to Wednesday. No further fall today doesn't make me much less confident. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48954565) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2025 12:49 PM Author: doobsian heady hall ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48956354) |
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Date: May 27th, 2025 4:06 PM Author: histrionic field nowag ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48965535) |
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Date: May 27th, 2025 4:18 PM Author: doobsian heady hall 30 year bond still at 2002 level yields. https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US30Y |
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Date: May 27th, 2025 6:20 PM Author: histrionic field nowag i said the dip would be erased by Wednesday. I was one day early. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48965958) |
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Date: May 27th, 2025 7:25 PM Author: doobsian heady hall LETS GO MARKETS. FUCK OUR FUTURE. MORE DEBT PLEASE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5728451&forum_id=2Elisa#48966110) |