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Maryland Dad’s lawyers move for severe sanctions against the Trump Administrat

I do hope they get them as Trump has behaved like a cunt thr...
Ocher Soggy Mother
  06/12/25
how is deporting a criminal gang member “being a cunt&...
wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit
  06/12/25
...
Filthy friendly grandma
  06/12/25
its 180. its not like theyre meekly or quietly on the side o...
Infuriating topaz parlor
  06/12/25
Why did you think he was never coming back?
adventurous home
  06/12/25
why do you want him back?
wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit
  06/12/25
Why did you think he was never coming back?
adventurous home
  06/12/25
he's going be sent back to el sal or gitmo and there's nothi...
wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit
  06/12/25
Why did you think he was never coming back?
adventurous home
  06/12/25
why did you think he was coming back "in less than 30 d...
salmon pervert casino
  06/12/25
Why did you think he was never coming back?
adventurous home
  06/12/25
why did you think he was coming back "in less than 30 d...
salmon pervert casino
  06/12/25
This turned into a gunnerattt free thread at lightning speed...
adventurous home
  06/12/25
why did you think he was coming back "in less than 30 d...
salmon pervert casino
  06/12/25
It was a random guess. Why did you think he was never coming...
adventurous home
  06/12/25
i was gone for an hour based on the timestamps you schizo ch...
Infuriating topaz parlor
  06/12/25
Where'd those two pumos go?
adventurous home
  06/12/25
theyre my alts and i logged out of them to respond on my mai...
Infuriating topaz parlor
  06/12/25
My question was directed at the pumos, not you
adventurous home
  06/12/25
by responding and directing the question towards me? (i.e. &...
Infuriating topaz parlor
  06/12/25
Where did those two pumos go?
adventurous home
  06/12/25
I was hoaping Maryland Dad would have been fatally murdered...
Lime ape
  06/12/25
🚨 obeezy alert 🤡
Boyish abusive address
  06/12/25
holy shit a sanctions motion! thanks for bringing thing huge...
Infuriating topaz parlor
  06/12/25
lmao he's such a retarded porch monkey
Filthy friendly grandma
  06/12/25
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Razzle-dazzle tanning salon
  06/12/25
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Demanding mint masturbator
  06/12/25
You won't take my bet http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?t...
adventurous home
  06/12/25
as in the defendant himself? sure, ill take that bet. if ...
Infuriating topaz parlor
  06/12/25
his last prediction was that the Maryland Man would be retur...
salmon pervert casino
  06/12/25
I mean the government. I bet the government gets sanctioned ...
adventurous home
  06/12/25
because sanctions can include anything from a verbal fingerw...
Infuriating topaz parlor
  06/12/25
You never took my bet
adventurous home
  06/12/25
because i agree that its possible that they'll be sanctioned...
Infuriating topaz parlor
  06/12/25
Taking bets on whether they get sanctions. I say they do ...
adventurous home
  06/12/25
gunnerattt won't take my bet
adventurous home
  06/12/25
you lost the bet last time
salmon pervert casino
  06/12/25
Then why won't you take my bet?
adventurous home
  06/12/25
what bet?
salmon pervert casino
  06/12/25
gunnerattt your turn
adventurous home
  06/12/25
They are asking for DISCOVERY sanctions to be clear lol I...
opaque round eye site
  06/12/25
As opposed to what? A final ruling on the merits?
adventurous home
  06/12/25
Deporting him in violation of court order Defying court ...
opaque round eye site
  06/12/25
Getting expedited discovery on the US State Department is ju...
adventurous home
  06/12/25
lol at anyone caring about lawfare cumfarter bullshit you in...
wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit
  06/12/25
Cope
adventurous home
  06/12/25
trump can just tell them to fuck off and send him to whereve...
wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit
  06/12/25
Cope
adventurous home
  06/12/25
...
Razzle Mildly Autistic Indian Lodge
  06/12/25
...
Filthy friendly grandma
  06/12/25
https://i.imgur.com/dXFtduc.png
adventurous home
  06/12/25
cr if you’re sanctioned for discovery violations becau...
Ocher Soggy Mother
  06/12/25
these "courts" have all been discredited. no one ...
wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit
  06/12/25
btw tomorrow is the hearing on whether the govt can hold in ...
Ocher Soggy Mother
  06/12/25
going to bat for a criminal sex trafficker and reminding eve...
wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit
  06/12/25
His knuckle tattoos are enough, according to the Government
adventurous home
  06/12/25
Don’t forget about his Chicago Bulls hoodie
Ocher Soggy Mother
  06/12/25
everyone who wears "hoodies" also should be assume...
wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit
  06/12/25
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHJJwKnXsAc3qsp.jpg:large
Ocher Soggy Mother
  06/12/25
nigger hoodies obviously. athlesiure that whites wear is fin...
wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit
  06/12/25
what about this? https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/orig...
Ocher Soggy Mother
  06/12/25
you are a mentally retarded jewish pedophile who suffers fro...
wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit
  06/12/25
well known gang tattoos are a good indicator of gang affilia...
wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit
  06/12/25
i am a maryland dad
Twinkling hairraiser mexican church building
  06/12/25
with a history of dv just like the og maryland dad. depor...
Infuriating topaz parlor
  06/12/25
Can you get discovery on the US State Department? Will State...
adventurous home
  06/12/25
gunnerattt thinks they have a strong argument
adventurous home
  06/12/25
To be fair, "THANCTIONTH!!!!"
Demanding mint masturbator
  06/12/25
https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1936915841498640684?s=46
Ocher Soggy Mother
  06/22/25


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Date: June 12th, 2025 7:25 AM
Author: Ocher Soggy Mother

I do hope they get them as Trump has behaved like a cunt throughout this entire ordeal

https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1933078863988269239?s=46

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.195.0.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007736)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 7:56 AM
Author: wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit

how is deporting a criminal gang member “being a cunt”? And why do you still think you can do this lawfare bullshit without everyone just telling you to fuck off?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007767)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Filthy friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007776)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:07 AM
Author: Infuriating topaz parlor

its 180. its not like theyre meekly or quietly on the side of this nonsense. they are melting down over it. its like trans and woke shit where getting them spiraling on this shit just further alienates them from ordinary people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007781)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:08 AM
Author: adventurous home

Why did you think he was never coming back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007782)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:42 AM
Author: wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit

why do you want him back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007835)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: adventurous home

Why did you think he was never coming back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007880)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit

he's going be sent back to el sal or gitmo and there's nothing lawfags can do about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007883)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:02 AM
Author: adventurous home

Why did you think he was never coming back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007885)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: salmon pervert casino

why did you think he was coming back "in less than 30 days"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007884)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:02 AM
Author: adventurous home

Why did you think he was never coming back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007887)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:05 AM
Author: salmon pervert casino

why did you think he was coming back "in less than 30 days"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007894)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:06 AM
Author: adventurous home

This turned into a gunnerattt free thread at lightning speed. Now it's two pumos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007897)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: salmon pervert casino

why did you think he was coming back "in less than 30 days"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007917)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: adventurous home

It was a random guess. Why did you think he was never coming back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007918)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:34 AM
Author: Infuriating topaz parlor

i was gone for an hour based on the timestamps you schizo chink. some of us have a job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007958)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:51 AM
Author: adventurous home

Where'd those two pumos go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007998)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:55 AM
Author: Infuriating topaz parlor

theyre my alts and i logged out of them to respond on my main of course

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008009)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: adventurous home

My question was directed at the pumos, not you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008047)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:30 AM
Author: Infuriating topaz parlor

by responding and directing the question towards me? (i.e. "where'd those two pumos go?" not "where did you go pumos?")

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008109)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 12:26 PM
Author: adventurous home

Where did those two pumos go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008428)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 12:14 PM
Author: Lime ape

I was hoaping Maryland Dad would have been fatally murdered to death in his third world prison.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008402)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: Boyish abusive address

🚨 obeezy alert 🤡

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008057)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 7:35 AM
Author: Infuriating topaz parlor

holy shit a sanctions motion! thanks for bringing thing huge news to our attention WLMAS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007747)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Filthy friendly grandma

lmao he's such a retarded porch monkey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007777)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008277)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:49 PM
Author: Demanding mint masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49009647)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:09 AM
Author: adventurous home

You won't take my bet

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736586&mc=1&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007784)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:23 AM
Author: Infuriating topaz parlor

as in the defendant himself? sure, ill take that bet.

if you mean the prosecutors, sure they might get bench slapped but i doubt they will individually be sanctioned in any material way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007808)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:36 AM
Author: salmon pervert casino

his last prediction was that the Maryland Man would be returned back to the US in less than 30 days. When that didn't happen, he completely ignored the issue. Now he wants you to make another bet with him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007824)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:38 AM
Author: adventurous home

I mean the government. I bet the government gets sanctioned and you won't take my bet. You'll spam a wall of gibberish instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007825)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:31 AM
Author: Infuriating topaz parlor

because sanctions can include anything from a verbal fingerwagging to losing your law license. i think its possible the former will happen, doubtful that anything material will.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007947)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: adventurous home

You never took my bet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007996)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: Infuriating topaz parlor

because i agree that its possible that they'll be sanctioned in some form, as i just said

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008029)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:09 AM
Author: adventurous home

Taking bets on whether they get sanctions. I say they do

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736586&mc=1&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007783)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:40 AM
Author: adventurous home

gunnerattt won't take my bet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007832)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:42 AM
Author: salmon pervert casino

you lost the bet last time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007836)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: adventurous home

Then why won't you take my bet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007839)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:46 AM
Author: salmon pervert casino

what bet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007844)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:50 AM
Author: adventurous home

gunnerattt your turn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007851)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:20 AM
Author: opaque round eye site

They are asking for DISCOVERY sanctions to be clear lol

I guess the whole sanctions for being sent to Alcatraz will come next

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007806)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:44 AM
Author: adventurous home

As opposed to what? A final ruling on the merits?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007840)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: opaque round eye site

Deporting him in violation of court order

Defying court order to to facilitate return

They are asking for sanctions right now for failing to competently respond to interrogatories. THE JOKE HERE IS THATS IS JUST LIKE BIGLAW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007873)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:58 AM
Author: adventurous home

Getting expedited discovery on the US State Department is just like BIGLAW? Damn I shoulda done BIGLAW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007877)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:02 AM
Author: wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit

lol at anyone caring about lawfare cumfarter bullshit you insane fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007886)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:02 AM
Author: adventurous home

Cope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007888)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit

trump can just tell them to fuck off and send him to wherever if he wants. this angers you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007890)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:05 AM
Author: adventurous home

Cope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007892)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: Razzle Mildly Autistic Indian Lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008032)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Filthy friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008033)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: adventurous home

https://i.imgur.com/dXFtduc.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008051)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:05 AM
Author: Ocher Soggy Mother

cr if you’re sanctioned for discovery violations because you repeatedly ignored court’s orders to respond it’s not as bad as if you’re sanctioned for other conduct because…idk, reasons or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008210)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit

these "courts" have all been discredited. no one in this country cares about their dumb bullshit and no one has to listen to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008221)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:47 AM
Author: Ocher Soggy Mother

btw tomorrow is the hearing on whether the govt can hold in him jail pending trial on the trafficking charges. Judge is a black Biden appointee who isn’t going to do Trump any favors given his egregious conduct with respect to this guy, and the magistrate already told DOJ lawyers on Monday that the charges in the trafficking indictment don’t automatically warrant pretrial detention, so Trumpmos better hope the govt has the goods on him. DOJ also had difficulty explaining how he’s a flight risk considering ICE is just going to take him back into custody if court doesn’t grant pretrial detention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007846)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit

going to bat for a criminal sex trafficker and reminding everyone that We all hate jewish lawfare faggots is a great hill to die on. also everyone will totally forget that Newsom set half of LA on fire for no fucking reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007889)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:08 AM
Author: adventurous home

His knuckle tattoos are enough, according to the Government

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49007901)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: Ocher Soggy Mother

Don’t forget about his Chicago Bulls hoodie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008041)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:08 AM
Author: wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit

everyone who wears "hoodies" also should be assumed to be a criminal until proven otherwise you mentally retarded jewish pedophile. ask Trayvon Martin's rotted corpse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008234)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: Ocher Soggy Mother

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHJJwKnXsAc3qsp.jpg:large

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008248)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit

nigger hoodies obviously. athlesiure that whites wear is fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008251)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: Ocher Soggy Mother

what about this?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/050/929/vance.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008272)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit

you are a mentally retarded jewish pedophile who suffers from severe TDS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008304)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: wonderful cerise tank orchestra pit

well known gang tattoos are a good indicator of gang affiliation you nutjob

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008230)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: Twinkling hairraiser mexican church building

i am a maryland dad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008306)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:53 AM
Author: Infuriating topaz parlor

with a history of dv just like the og maryland dad.

deport zurich.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008352)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:50 PM
Author: adventurous home

Can you get discovery on the US State Department? Will State Department file a motion to seal? Will it be granted?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49009653)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 12:26 PM
Author: adventurous home

gunnerattt thinks they have a strong argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49008430)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:49 PM
Author: Demanding mint masturbator

To be fair,

"THANCTIONTH!!!!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49009650)



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Date: June 22nd, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Ocher Soggy Mother

https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1936915841498640684?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736581&forum_id=2Elisa#49041164)