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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
shimmering set
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they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
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much more than that
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But also some negative consequences
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Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
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  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
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why who is he?
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Cleveland *Indians*
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indians, cleveland
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im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
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  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
shimmering set
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i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
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  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
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A year? Yeah.
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why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
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the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
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wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
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import the third world, become the third world
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  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Mahogany sickened state persian
  11/09/25
*destroying
shimmering set
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How do you calculate $5k
heady chrome brunch
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Mahogany sickened state persian
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
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Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
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ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
shimmering set
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Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
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How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
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  11/09/25
Jews maf
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it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Slate really tough guy church
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
shimmering set
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Slate really tough guy church
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Mahogany sickened state persian
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what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
pearly round eye hunting ground
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
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Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
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there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
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the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
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i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
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solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
shimmering set
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here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
shimmering set
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lol
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Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
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that is fucking hilarious.
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
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its real, clearly a major league reference
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anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
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I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
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could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: shimmering set

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: dun fiercely-loyal house partner

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: shimmering set

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: heady chrome brunch

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Topaz offensive roast beef

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: comical ratface gaping

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Grizzly concupiscible international law enforcement agency gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: dun fiercely-loyal house partner

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Khaki Glittery New Version

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Gay passionate indirect expression



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: shimmering set

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Stirring henna degenerate

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: dun fiercely-loyal house partner



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Splenetic headpube site



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Mahogany sickened state persian

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Lascivious roommate



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Lascivious roommate



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: sable slap-happy range boltzmann

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Sienna elastic band stag film

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Slate really tough guy church

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: shimmering set

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Slate really tough guy church

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: godawful sandwich gay wizard

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: citrine preventive strike

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: pearly round eye hunting ground

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: coiffed school cafeteria juggernaut

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Sienna elastic band stag film

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: godawful sandwich gay wizard

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Mahogany sickened state persian

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: shimmering set

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: heady chrome brunch

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Mahogany sickened state persian

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: heady chrome brunch

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: fuchsia vivacious native affirmative action

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: shimmering set

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: fluffy milky twinkling uncleanness knife

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: shimmering set

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: godawful sandwich gay wizard

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Slate really tough guy church

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: shimmering set

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Slate really tough guy church

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Mahogany sickened state persian

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: pearly round eye hunting ground

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: fluffy milky twinkling uncleanness knife

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Appetizing bearded chapel sweet tailpipe

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: shimmering set

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Appetizing bearded chapel sweet tailpipe

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: pearly round eye hunting ground

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: shimmering set

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: shimmering set

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Appetizing bearded chapel sweet tailpipe

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: soul-stirring home

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: godawful sandwich gay wizard



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Charcoal half-breed

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Sienna elastic band stag film

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Mahogany sickened state persian

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: coiffed school cafeteria juggernaut

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: fluffy milky twinkling uncleanness knife

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Grizzly concupiscible international law enforcement agency gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: shimmering set

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: godawful sandwich gay wizard



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Jade racy university

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Shaky 180 Stage

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: fuchsia vivacious native affirmative action

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416774)