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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/09/25
180
chest-beating piazza
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/09/25
much more than that
ruddy laughsome point pocket flask
  11/09/25
anal rape?
red brethren
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Flatulent Translucent Pit Athletic Conference
  11/09/25
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adulterous plum orchestra pit dingle berry
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
chest-beating piazza
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Bearded milky theater community account
  11/09/25
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mauve misunderstood trust fund
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
cruel-hearted honey-headed trailer park macaca
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chest-beating piazza
  11/09/25
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Shaky twinkling uncleanness locus
  11/09/25
cr he blows
Marvelous Goal In Life Theater Stage
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Talented queen of the night state
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Talented queen of the night state
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Thriller stead
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Onyx Trip Base
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Domesticated Multi-colored Reading Party
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Domesticated Multi-colored Reading Party
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
Chestnut stage elastic band
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
haunting purple mediation
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
aromatic pervert
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Lemon location keepsake machete
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Onyx Trip Base
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
Chestnut stage elastic band
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Marvelous Goal In Life Theater Stage
  11/09/25
*destroying
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
ruddy laughsome point pocket flask
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Marvelous Goal In Life Theater Stage
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
ruddy laughsome point pocket flask
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
Irradiated Fat Ankles
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Contagious chartreuse forum
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/09/25
Jews maf
Chestnut stage elastic band
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Domesticated Multi-colored Reading Party
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Domesticated Multi-colored Reading Party
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Marvelous Goal In Life Theater Stage
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
aromatic pervert
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Contagious chartreuse forum
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Aphrodisiac national
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Aphrodisiac national
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
aromatic pervert
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/09/25
lol
Aphrodisiac national
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
Diverse twisted jap immigrant
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...
Chestnut stage elastic band
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
awkward ungodly stage
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Onyx Trip Base
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Marvelous Goal In Life Theater Stage
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Lemon location keepsake machete
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Contagious chartreuse forum
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adulterous plum orchestra pit dingle berry
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife
  11/10/25
...
Chestnut stage elastic band
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
mind-boggling step-uncle's house
  11/10/25
lol
odious saffron principal's office degenerate
  11/10/25
Lmao
Irradiated Fat Ankles
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: chest-beating piazza

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: ruddy laughsome point pocket flask

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: red brethren

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Flatulent Translucent Pit Athletic Conference

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: adulterous plum orchestra pit dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: chest-beating piazza

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Bearded milky theater community account

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: mauve misunderstood trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414462)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: cruel-hearted honey-headed trailer park macaca

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: chest-beating piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414547)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Shaky twinkling uncleanness locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Marvelous Goal In Life Theater Stage

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Talented queen of the night state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415195)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Talented queen of the night state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415193)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Thriller stead

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Onyx Trip Base

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Domesticated Multi-colored Reading Party

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Domesticated Multi-colored Reading Party

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Chestnut stage elastic band

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: haunting purple mediation

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: aromatic pervert

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Lemon location keepsake machete

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Onyx Trip Base

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Chestnut stage elastic band

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Marvelous Goal In Life Theater Stage

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: ruddy laughsome point pocket flask

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Marvelous Goal In Life Theater Stage

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: ruddy laughsome point pocket flask

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Irradiated Fat Ankles

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Contagious chartreuse forum

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Chestnut stage elastic band

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Domesticated Multi-colored Reading Party

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Domesticated Multi-colored Reading Party

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Marvelous Goal In Life Theater Stage

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: aromatic pervert

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Contagious chartreuse forum

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac national

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac national

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: aromatic pervert

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac national

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Diverse twisted jap immigrant

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Chestnut stage elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: awkward ungodly stage

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Onyx Trip Base

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Marvelous Goal In Life Theater Stage

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Lemon location keepsake machete

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Contagious chartreuse forum

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: adulterous plum orchestra pit dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Heady Know-it-all International Law Enforcement Agency Knife

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Chestnut stage elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: mind-boggling step-uncle's house

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: odious saffron principal's office degenerate

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Irradiated Fat Ankles

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416774)