You are presented with two boxes, one transparent (labeled A) and the other opaque (labeled B). You have two choices: take the contents of both boxes, or just the opaque Box B. Box A contains a visible $1,000. The contents of Box B, however, are determined as follows: At some point before the start of the game, the Predictor makes a prediction as to whether you will take just Box B, or both boxes. If the Predictor predicts that both boxes will be taken, then Box B will contain nothing. If the Predictor predicts that only Box B will be taken, then Box B will contain $1,000,000.

By the time the game begins, the prediction has already been made, and the contents of Box B have already been determined. That is, Box B contains either $0 or $1,000,000 before the game begins, and once the game begins even the Predictor is powerless to change the contents of the boxes.

Do you take both boxes, or just Box B?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877705&forum_id=2Elisa#49964924)

If we learn somehow that the machine is wrong more often than presumed then I would two box. Because the wronger the machine the better it is to take two. But if it's infallible the retrocausality is real because you can effect the past by your present actions. If it's 100% impossible for the machine to be wrong then you always get a million for taking one box and two boxers always get 1000.

Two boxers can argue that retrocausality isn't real however it's implied by the hypo that it must be possible the closer the machine gets to 100% accuracy. And that's why the hypo itself is flawed because it's an impossible experiment in reality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877705&forum_id=2Elisa#49964945)

the money is already in the boxes by the time you're called on to make your choice. no matter what it predicted, you get more money by taking both. if it predicted both, you get $1,000 instead of $0. If it predicted one, you get $1,001,000 instead of $1,000,000.

one intuition pump: imagine your best friend is there, on the opposite side of the boxes, and he can see into them. no matter what, he's going to tell you take both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877705&forum_id=2Elisa#49964968)

The whole hypo doesn't really make any sense. There are better version of it that the LessWrong fags made up that actually make coherent sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877705&forum_id=2Elisa#49964995)

I know there's one where the Predictor is a really talented psychiatrist who has spent years profiling you, analyzing every waking move you've ever made since birth (maybe it's in the form of transcripts or they watch you at accelerated speed or something), and has never been wrong predicting a decision of anyone they've studied.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877705&forum_id=2Elisa#49965005)

These midwit redditors absolutely love to stroke themselves to reminding you that RETROCAUSALITY is IMPOSSIBLE so you CANNOT EFFECT whether the million is in one of the boxes. So it LITERALLY DOES NOT MATTER if you take one or both, and both is always 1000 MORE. They will tell you this over and over til your ears bleed. They can't get enough of dunking on 1 boxers with the NO RETROCAUSALITY argument, which they love more than life itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877705&forum_id=2Elisa#49964973)

not affecting the past. being a person in the present who is rich in the future 😎

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877705&forum_id=2Elisa#49965034)

If you BOX B ALPHA and it turns out there's no money, who gives a fuck-- you can look that ai-chatbot NIGGER in his faggot hallucinating cyber face and tell him that he's a STUPID FUCKING NIGGER and his .00001% error rate is probably as real as the NYT trump-victory-odds needle.

You can't put a fucking price on that shit. I'm Box B TO THE HILT and you could, I shit you not, put $50,000 in box A and I'm still punching that cunt right in the face. I'm getting so pumped up typing this right now that you could just put $1M in box A and I'm still Box B ride or die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877705&forum_id=2Elisa#49965149)

The irony is that a two boxer who lost the million would go on bragging forever about how at the time he two boxed the money was already not in box B and so he made 1000 more than zero.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877705&forum_id=2Elisa#49965155)