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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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cracking hall
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
diverse corner feces
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
diverse corner feces
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
vivacious masturbator base
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
exhilarant elite gas station
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
sticky public bath
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
laughsome drab nursing home legend
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Exciting disgusting school cafeteria associate
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Exciting disgusting school cafeteria associate
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Exciting disgusting school cafeteria associate
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
azure macaca
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Bronze wild idiot
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
stubborn police squad parlor
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
sticky public bath
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
cracking hall
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Aggressive hilarious station puppy
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
hairraiser box office prole
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
hideous lime house
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
cracking hall
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
At-the-ready umber mediation karate
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/26/25
...
shimmering doobsian athletic conference
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Misanthropic rehab
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Tan university immigrant
  06/26/25
...
Insane forum
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
histrionic ivory parlour
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Multi-colored Tattoo
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Razzle-dazzle ape foreskin
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Multi-colored Tattoo
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
sticky public bath
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
laughsome drab nursing home legend
  06/27/25
...
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
pea-brained school ratface
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Multi-colored Tattoo
  06/27/25
...
Iridescent Appetizing Kitchen Son Of Senegal
  06/27/25
...
Arousing coffee pot hominid
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Razzle-dazzle ape foreskin
  06/27/25
How is STB?
laughsome drab nursing home legend
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
beta zippy laser beams stag film
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
sticky public bath
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Misanthropic rehab
  06/27/25
...
erotic saffron multi-billionaire becky
  06/27/25
...
sticky public bath
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: cracking hall

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: diverse corner feces

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: diverse corner feces

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: vivacious masturbator base

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: exhilarant elite gas station

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: sticky public bath

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: laughsome drab nursing home legend

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Exciting disgusting school cafeteria associate

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Exciting disgusting school cafeteria associate

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Exciting disgusting school cafeteria associate

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: azure macaca

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Bronze wild idiot

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: stubborn police squad parlor

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: sticky public bath

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: cracking hall

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Aggressive hilarious station puppy

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: hairraiser box office prole

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: hideous lime house

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: cracking hall

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: At-the-ready umber mediation karate

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: shimmering doobsian athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Misanthropic rehab

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Tan university immigrant

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Insane forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: histrionic ivory parlour

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Multi-colored Tattoo

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle ape foreskin

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Multi-colored Tattoo

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: sticky public bath

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: laughsome drab nursing home legend

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: pea-brained school ratface

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Multi-colored Tattoo

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Iridescent Appetizing Kitchen Son Of Senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Arousing coffee pot hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle ape foreskin

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: laughsome drab nursing home legend

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: beta zippy laser beams stag film

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: sticky public bath

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Misanthropic rehab

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: erotic saffron multi-billionaire becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: sticky public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053817)