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Not only has he lied about being a D1 hockey enforcer and pr...
sinister senate striped hyena
  06/17/25
Bumping to bookmark. Would be 180 if he got outed.
brilliant racy range
  06/17/25
Links?
Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  06/17/25
Its very well documented in the Mueller Files
brilliant racy range
  06/17/25
Link?
Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  06/17/25
Just google the Mueller file bro. Also please screenshot the...
brilliant racy range
  06/17/25
Some of these are wishful thinking by his haters imo
Spectacular elastic band
  06/17/25
They forgot that I went to Michigan State and I’m a HU...
Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  06/17/25
And you're bald and ride a bicycle everywhere!
insane background story
  06/18/25
These are all FACTS beez himself posted more than once
Marvelous Brunch Prole
  06/18/25
I saw all of them in real time except the one about raising ...
Violet heady partner
  06/18/25
Oh he’s posted about his mud partner and her kid a bun...
Marvelous Brunch Prole
  06/18/25
LOLOLOL
Violet heady partner
  06/18/25
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sinister senate striped hyena
  08/14/25
You forgot the links
fiercely-loyal jade queen of the night corner
  06/17/25
You could have posted this from your sudo, but thanks for ou...
brilliant racy range
  06/17/25
How is any of this embarrassing in any way?
chartreuse blood rage
  06/17/25
(Outed as a shortmo)
brilliant racy range
  06/17/25
great thread, would read again
Violet heady partner
  06/18/25
Not only has he lied about being a D1 hockey enforcer and pr...
sinister senate striped hyena
  08/01/25
Lol cons It's just a coincidence that he started pretending ...
Rose overrated foreskin
  08/01/25
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Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  08/01/25
His name is Nathaniel he's 5'6"
stirring university hairy legs
  08/01/25
that's a gookjew name! fucking faggot
Indigo hyperactive gaping
  08/01/25
He's half Jewish and half gook
stirring university hairy legs
  08/01/25
And I went to Michigan state and am a huge red wings fan!
Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  08/01/25
How many bicycles do you own?
stirring university hairy legs
  08/01/25
lol more than is reasonable. I guess now like 5 and a half g...
Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  08/01/25
Not only has he lied about being a D1 hockey enforcer and pr...
sinister senate striped hyena
  08/01/25
Not only has he lied about being a D1 hockey enforcer and pr...
sinister senate striped hyena
  08/01/25
LOL this wildly insane liar has now crafted a whole new stor...
Marvelous Brunch Prole
  08/14/25
lmao
Violet heady partner
  08/14/25
WILD he went from TTTT--->SHITLAW to t14--->v10! On to...
Marvelous Brunch Prole
  08/14/25
guys at my HS NBD
Violet heady partner
  08/14/25
Don't forget the 180 relationship with his wife that didn't ...
Rose overrated foreskin
  08/14/25
and his "not trashy wife with no divorces" who is ...
Marvelous Brunch Prole
  08/14/25
...
Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  08/14/25
...
Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  08/14/25
LOL
Violet heady partner
  08/14/25
...
Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle
  09/08/25
elevated my family line from lower middle class to upper mid...
Plum Mediation Old Irish Cottage
  08/14/25
...
Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  08/14/25
LOL
sinister senate striped hyena
  08/14/25
Insane how mentally ill this guy is lmao
Rose overrated foreskin
  08/14/25
Absolutely wild. He has to be one of the biggest losers in X...
Marvelous Brunch Prole
  08/14/25
...
Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  08/14/25
Whats funny is he used to post all this mentally ill shit as...
Rose overrated foreskin
  08/14/25
What an absolutely pathetic guy. His life is a sad, sad joke...
Marvelous Brunch Prole
  08/14/25
I'm modestly confident he works in a call center somewhere i...
Violet heady partner
  08/14/25
He never could keep all his stories straight. I fondly remem...
Rose overrated foreskin
  08/14/25
LMAO
Marvelous Brunch Prole
  08/14/25
...
sinister senate striped hyena
  08/14/25
Lmao yeah! And he raises a black son! These are all very tru...
Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  08/14/25
Yes you are a huge loser. Tell us about the time you won the...
Marvelous Brunch Prole
  08/14/25
Oh are you denying this now? Lets get you On The Record. ...
Rose overrated foreskin
  08/14/25
Yes. No. No. No, it was Spanish Peaks Mountain Club (get you...
Aromatic maize orchestra pit
  08/14/25
Loads of 5’4” QBs makes sense
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  08/14/25
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  08/14/25
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Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle
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  08/14/25
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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: sinister senate striped hyena

Not only has he lied about being a D1 hockey enforcer and pretended he made some $ in crypto, Obeezy has also admitted:

- he is extremely short (5’4” or so)

- he is objectively ugly

- he went to a true TTTT law school

- he had a low paying unprestigious law job

- his “partner” that he never married is some sort of squat Mayan

- he is raising HER kid she had with a black guy

- he drove his ex gf to suicide with his rancid personality

- said exgf refused to have sex with him for years and was a mousy azn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49023815)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: brilliant racy range

Bumping to bookmark. Would be 180 if he got outed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49023834)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit

Links?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49023846)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: brilliant racy range

Its very well documented in the Mueller Files

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49023849)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:56 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49023857)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: brilliant racy range

Just google the Mueller file bro. Also please screenshot the results.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49024118)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: Spectacular elastic band

Some of these are wishful thinking by his haters imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49023848)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit

They forgot that I went to Michigan State and I’m a HUGE red wings fan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49023861)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 6:32 AM
Author: insane background story

And you're bald and ride a bicycle everywhere!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49027590)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Marvelous Brunch Prole

These are all FACTS beez himself posted more than once

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49027631)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 7:21 AM
Author: Violet heady partner

I saw all of them in real time except the one about raising her half-negro child LOL JUST LOL JUST LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49027635)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 7:23 AM
Author: Marvelous Brunch Prole

Oh he’s posted about his mud partner and her kid a bunch now denies it after the fact. Sick, midget liar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49027650)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 7:25 AM
Author: Violet heady partner

LOLOLOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49027653)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: sinister senate striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184358)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal jade queen of the night corner

You forgot the links

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49023863)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 12:07 PM
Author: brilliant racy range

You could have posted this from your sudo, but thanks for outing one of your quotemos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49024134)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 12:11 PM
Author: chartreuse blood rage

How is any of this embarrassing in any way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49024153)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 12:12 PM
Author: brilliant racy range

(Outed as a shortmo)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49024158)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 7:14 AM
Author: Violet heady partner

great thread, would read again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49027623)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 10:02 AM
Author: sinister senate striped hyena

Not only has he lied about being a D1 hockey enforcer and pretended he made some $ in crypto, Obeezy has also admitted:

- he is extremely short (5’4” or so)

- he is objectively ugly

- he went to a true TTTT law school

- he had a low paying unprestigious law job

- his “partner” that he never married is some sort of squat Mayan

- he is raising HER kid she had with a black guy

- he drove his ex gf to suicide with his rancid personality

- said exgf refused to have sex with him for years and was a mousy azn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49148126)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Rose overrated foreskin

Lol cons It's just a coincidence that he started pretending to be a rich crypto "investor" after people mocked the unfinished garage living space he posted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49148132)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49148135)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: stirring university hairy legs

His name is Nathaniel he's 5'6"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49148138)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 10:16 AM
Author: Indigo hyperactive gaping

that's a gookjew name! fucking faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49148145)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 10:17 AM
Author: stirring university hairy legs

He's half Jewish and half gook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49148147)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit

And I went to Michigan state and am a huge red wings fan!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49148152)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: stirring university hairy legs

How many bicycles do you own?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49148154)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit

lol more than is reasonable. I guess now like 5 and a half given one has been cannibalized for parts. It’s just such a unique frame it’s hard for me to give it up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49148164)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 10:29 AM
Author: sinister senate striped hyena

Not only has he lied about being a D1 hockey enforcer and pretended he made some $ in crypto, Obeezy has also admitted:

- he is extremely short (5’4” or so)

- he is objectively ugly

- he went to a true TTTT law school

- he had a low paying unprestigious law job

- his “partner” that he never married is some sort of squat Mayan

- he is raising HER kid she had with a black guy

- he drove his ex gf to suicide with his rancid personality

- said exgf refused to have sex with him for years and was a mousy azn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49148169)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: sinister senate striped hyena

Not only has he lied about being a D1 hockey enforcer and pretended he made some $ in crypto, Obeezy has also admitted:

- he is extremely short (5’4” or so)

- he is objectively ugly

- he went to a true TTTT law school

- he had a low paying unprestigious law job

- his “partner” that he never married is some sort of squat Mayan

- he is raising HER kid she had with a black guy

- he drove his ex gf to suicide with his rancid personality

- said exgf refused to have sex with him for years and was a mousy azn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49148159)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:52 AM
Author: Marvelous Brunch Prole

LOL this wildly insane liar has now crafted a whole new story!

Date: August 14th, 2025 10:43 AM

Author: MAGA Farm Animals Reeking of Trump Cologne

Sure! Two sport NCAA athlete, graduated T14 with honors, V10, significantly elevated my family line from lower middle class to upper middle class, healthy relationship with my beautiful wife (no trashy divorces for me) and kids, great relationship with my bro, live off money I earned instead of leaching off others, speak two language, and have a really cool dog.

If you ask nicely I can help you become nearly as successful as me. A lot of these things are out of reach for you but if you worked really hard you could maybe get a few under your ample belt. Probably not the quality relationships with a wife and a brother though (lmao that ship has sailed for you chubs - you really should have picked a better first wife and been there for your brother instead of abandoning him).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184271)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: Violet heady partner

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184283)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Marvelous Brunch Prole

WILD he went from TTTT--->SHITLAW to t14--->v10! On top of that he now was not only a 5'4'' HOCKEY ENFORCER but played a SECOND D1 varsity sport! Who does this fucking freak think he is fooling with this made up new story after decades on xo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184304)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:04 AM
Author: Violet heady partner

guys at my HS NBD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184327)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Rose overrated foreskin

Don't forget the 180 relationship with his wife that didn't mind his "latina spinner side piece". We could all learn a lot from obeezy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184342)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: Marvelous Brunch Prole

and his "not trashy wife with no divorces" who is some sort of brown mystery meat who had a kid out of wedlock. Also "his" kid is that kid she brought into their relationship, LMAO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184356)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184366)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184365)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: Violet heady partner

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184381)



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Date: September 8th, 2025 2:05 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡±)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49245484)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: Plum Mediation Old Irish Cottage

elevated my family line from lower middle class to upper middle class tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184286)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184367)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:03 AM
Author: sinister senate striped hyena

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184317)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:09 AM
Author: Rose overrated foreskin

Insane how mentally ill this guy is lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184339)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: Marvelous Brunch Prole

Absolutely wild. He has to be one of the biggest losers in XO history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184359)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184368)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:17 AM
Author: Rose overrated foreskin

Whats funny is he used to post all this mentally ill shit as an anonymous boring shitlib pumo and got baited into posting these tall tales when people pointed out things he is insecure about. His latest larp posing as a retired man of considerable means is because he got mocked for the nasty prole unfinished garage living space he posted pics of

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184378)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: Marvelous Brunch Prole

What an absolutely pathetic guy. His life is a sad, sad joke. It explains why he's so mad...well that and being a legal midget.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184383)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: Violet heady partner

I'm modestly confident he works in a call center somewhere in the middle of nowhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184388)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: Rose overrated foreskin

He never could keep all his stories straight. I fondly remember his arc of being a normal height guy always implying he was ex military (special forces of course) who spends his time fly fishing with his operator buddies who despite all that alpha male energy was backing Hillary to the Hilt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184394)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Marvelous Brunch Prole

LMAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184408)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: sinister senate striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184415)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:41 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit

Lmao yeah! And he raises a black son! These are all very true things he totally said haha crazy.

What a loser

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184522)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Marvelous Brunch Prole

Yes you are a huge loser. Tell us about the time you won the Heisman. If you’re going to be totally full of shit go for it my man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184530)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Rose overrated foreskin

Oh are you denying this now? Lets get you On The Record.

Do you have special forces pals? Do you ever do some really chill flyfishing? Did you serve in the military? Did you get scouted to join an NFL team after a team owner saw your arm talent as you were skipping rocks at the yellowstone club?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184543)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:58 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit

Yes. No. No. No, it was Spanish Peaks Mountain Club (get your facts straight chump).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184612)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 12:07 PM
Author: Marvelous Brunch Prole

Loads of 5’4” QBs makes sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184639)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: Violet heady partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184385)



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Date: September 8th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡±)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49244955)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:41 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184523)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184370)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:12 AM
Author: Aromatic maize orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49184355)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:36 AM
Author: Marvelous Brunch Prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49215743)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: Rose overrated foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739165&forum_id=2Elisa#49228330)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 11:58 AM
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