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Couldn't you fire "dummy missiles" alongside real ones to overwhelm defenses?

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in the...
Yapping Trailer Park
  06/18/25
Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the co...
Topaz Self-absorbed Stain
  06/18/25
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metal affirmative action
  06/18/25
Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet...
Yapping Trailer Park
  06/18/25
What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does...
Pontificating piazza
  06/18/25
They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket...
lilac reading party toilet seat
  06/18/25
You can answer the question now
Pontificating piazza
  06/18/25
So this is actually an idea which people have used. The ide...
Topaz Self-absorbed Stain
  06/18/25
Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.
Pontificating piazza
  06/18/25
What if they use lawnmower drones?
Pontificating piazza
  06/18/25
Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then sh...
hyperventilating travel guidebook
  06/18/25
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Yapping Trailer Park
  06/18/25
Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?
adventurous glassy karate native
  06/18/25
Yes
Topaz Self-absorbed Stain
  06/19/25
just trebuchet hot boulders
twinkling spectacular cuckold national
  06/18/25
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hot round eye
  06/18/25
(Bobby Birdshit)
Blue hairraiser locale
  06/18/25
Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release ...
ebony stage
  06/18/25
No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and...
Pontificating piazza
  06/18/25
Man think disabled people have it hard enough
Yapping Trailer Park
  06/18/25
This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.
Pea-brained hospital
  06/19/25


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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:49 PM
Author: Yapping Trailer Park

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in them along with some that do, AA doesn't know the difference. Am I some insanely smart war strategist or what? Why doesn't Iran do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029366)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: Topaz Self-absorbed Stain

Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the cost of the rocket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029376)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: metal affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029382)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: Yapping Trailer Park

Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029414)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: Pontificating piazza

What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does it still require engineering you can barely fathom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029418)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: lilac reading party toilet seat

They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket. You could just fill the explosives chamber with rocks or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029430)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: Pontificating piazza

You can answer the question now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029456)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Topaz Self-absorbed Stain

So this is actually an idea which people have used. The idea is to overwhelm the defenses by sending a lot of dumber, low cost munitions, but sending a dummy makes no sense economically. At some point there are not enough anti-missile weapons to stop them all. This is why drones can be effective; send thousands to the same place you can’t shoot them all down (in theory — shoot drones is pretty easy with a gun based defense, but there are range issues).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029477)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:49 PM
Author: Pontificating piazza

Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030279)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Pontificating piazza

What if they use lawnmower drones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029458)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: hyperventilating travel guidebook

Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then shoot them out of the real one once it gets close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029498)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: Yapping Trailer Park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029596)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: adventurous glassy karate native

Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030056)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: Topaz Self-absorbed Stain

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49031438)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: twinkling spectacular cuckold national

just trebuchet hot boulders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030054)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: hot round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030068)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Blue hairraiser locale

(Bobby Birdshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029422)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: ebony stage

Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release as they fly over high ADA regions. Supposedly some of the early Russian missile strikes in 2022 included completely inert iskander missiles whose explosive payloads were substituted entirely by decoys. This allowed them to fire volleys and have significantly more decoys to overwhelm air defenses, exactly as you suggested.

https://en.topcor.ru/24483-nyt-uznal-o-zapuskaemyh-rossiej-lozhnyh-celjah-vmeste-s-raketami-iskander-m.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030052)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: Pontificating piazza

No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and 48 hours later poasters are saying it costs nothing to add a warhead. Guess Judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030286)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: Yapping Trailer Park

Man think disabled people have it hard enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030291)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: Pea-brained hospital

This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49031415)