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Question about European feudalism.
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: zippy skinny woman Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: Startled aphrodisiac queen of the night parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49536032) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: mint nursing home shitlib Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: brindle mood Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: mint nursing home shitlib (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: brindle mood They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: mint nursing home shitlib read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: bisexual philosopher-king space Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Crimson concupiscible sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Jet-lagged meetinghouse alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: lilac spectacular institution what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Sienna market cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: opaque exciting box office I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: bisexual philosopher-king space teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Swashbuckling Fantasy-prone Scourge Upon The Earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: exhilarant pink tank i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Demanding lime school cafeteria Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Razzmatazz Idiot Pocket Flask really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: laughsome step-uncle's house It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: ruby thriller public bath indirect expression it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: laughsome step-uncle's house Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Razzmatazz Idiot Pocket Flask actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |