But Latinas are by far the best from just a sex standpoint

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49584028)

I've had mexican friends tell me to go there with them but I'm never gonna pay for sex and not setting foot in mexico again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49584411)

Friend fucked a hooker in amsterdam he said she laid there and held the condom on him the whole time and didn't move.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49584426)

What the fuck is the point of this unless you're insanely short or hideously ugly?

It's a party town in Mexico. You're white and rich (compared to all of the locals). If you can't just organically pull prime tale at a bar or a club for the price or a drink or three, what the fuck are you even doing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585013)

1. Not as much fun.

2. Higher chance of STDs (arguable but I would bet this is true).

3. Once you hit middle age, a lot of the thrill is in the chase. There is literally no "chase" in saying "Hey here's $75 let's get a room and you suck my dick real quick" to a working pro in a whorehouse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585026)

IDK I have never paid for sex at a whorehouse so I have no idea what the going rate is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585056)

2) Hookers are much more conscientious about STD risk than sluts.

3) You're respecting women too much. I don't care what they think about some retarded chase. I'd rather just get what I want and be done. The money means nothing to me and neither do her opinions on this topic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585058)

1. If you're pulling a drunk woman from a bar who is attracted enough to want to go back home and fuck you within an hour or two of meeting you, she'll almost certainly "do what you want" (within reason) and you're a faggot if you "care about her feelings." You sound like either a literal virgin or a retard if you don't implicitly understand that.

2. Yeah I doubt that.

3. The chase isn't for the woman, faggot, it's for the guy. "Yeah that's right I've still got it" =! "Why good evening m'lady, mayhap I get that door for you?". Have you ever even had a one night stand with a bar pull? Protip: They don't have to end with you listening to her talk about her family for six hours and then buying her breakfast the next morning etc etc etc. That's some very gay and totally unnecessary shit.

Again, you seem legitimately too dumb or inexperienced to have this discussion. But have fun being an alpha chad who pays literal hookers to touch your penis, though. Very cool!

(PS: As a middle-aged man, I now disavow all of this behavior because I recognize that Christ Is King and this sort of hedonistic shit is all a bunch of inherently degrading Jewish faggotry. It's one thing to do it when you're young and dumb, but if you're still running around engaging in any of this sort of stuff in your 30s or 40s you need to get your soul right and find God ASAP.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585077)

"Bar pulls are just too much work..."

Lemme stop you right there, hoss: Sorry that you're ugly and/or short and/or bald and/or fat and/or really old and/or have no game. That sucks. That's not my experience at all (especially in third world shitholes like Tijuana), but in that case yeah, I guess maybe you should just stick to paying pros.

We can end the conversation right there, IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585164)

Also Plaza Fiesta in TJ is fun too - all the trappings of San Diego for half price.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585172)

Yeah ngl bro at this point in my life that doesn't sound fun at all. Maybe 20 years ago, but I'm in a different place now I guess. See above parenthetical.

The only thing I would say is that regardless of my own personal views on any of this stuff, what you're describing here is a fundamentally different use case / experience than the "I'm gonna go to a whorehouse and pay a whore for sex" stuff the Pumo above is going on about. It's sort of like comparing authentic street tacos with a Chipotle bowl -- they can both be great in their own way and depending on what you're in the mood for they might both have their place, but they are absolutely not the same thing even if they're both theoretically """Mexican""" food.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585178)

i agree with your position but i think your opponents have the right of it in the context of this argument. you're biased against this because you consider it puerile and immature. fine. but if one *does* want to engage in puerile and immature hedonism, buying a fast pass isn't a bad route. especially since even organically pulling pussy as a vacationer in mexico is going to involve some degree of escort-lite wining and dining anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585204)

You didn't read the poast I was responding to, because it's clearly not the same product at all:

Product #1: Fucking and ejaculating in or on a Mexican woman.

Product #2: Having a blast (possibly with your bros) by casually jiggling a bunch of different nice Mexican titties and slapping a bunch of different thicccc Mexican asses for pocket change, because it's fun to do that sort of thing and that shit looks and feels nice (hehe).

That is, by any reasonable definition, not the same product. Which is my point.

I'm not saying that strip clubs can never serve a purpose -- I'm saying that if you're looking for Product #1 and you're not short or fat or ugly or bald or super old, then if you're in a place like Tijuana there are ways to get it that are almost as low effort + way cheaper + arguably expose you to less STD risk (plus you get the additional thrill of the chase/conquest). As a result, I think there's a strong argument to be made that those are preferable ways to acquire that product. Meanwhile, if you're looking for Product #2, I agree you better hit the strip club because good luck finding that shit anywhere else.

Street tacos vs. Chipotle. Both taste good but LJL at suggesting they're interchangeable meals just because they're both """Mexican""". (And to the take the analogy even further, I would never buy "street tacos" at Chipotle even if they started serving them because I'm sure they would be an overpriced and probably comparatively bland rip off vs what I could just easily go grab at some random taco truck.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585493)

This is literally the poast I am responding to:

"The appeal to Hong Kong is that you can go with friends or solo, get kinda drunk, and for $1 you can grope on some bitch's tits or ass. Like there is a line of hookers just standing around and you can feel em up and them slip a $1 in their g string. That's badass, aside from all the sex stuff. P in V sex is kinda gay as fuck but imagine a club full of women and you can just go wild slapping their ass, groping whatever you want, and you give em a fuckin dollar and they're cool with it."

What are you not getting here? I even specifically said above, in my response to that poast, that this is a totally different argument for the value of going to a strip club then "hehe I wanna fuck some whores" (because, again, this is a totally different product than fucking strange).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585510)

"? It's a strip club/brothel. You can just use it as a strip club if you like, but if you prefer you can pick a Latina and she'll fuck you. You may not like it, but the advertising is all true, mi amigo."

anyway it seemed like you were saying taco v. chipotle was paying for sex v. hooking up organically. you seemed to reaffirm that when you said product #1 was "Fucking and ejaculating in or on a Mexican woman." if you're saying if that happens in a strip club then it's ACKSHUALLLLY product #2 that's some consuela level sophistry brother.

anyway, my point was only that paying for pussy in mexico isn't that different from trying to hook up with natives organically and your aversion to this seems to be based more on condemnation of it generally that the distinction between the two. if i misread something somewhere and my point was mistargeted, mea culpa.

this has to be the most autistic hairsplitting about strip clubs/brotels i've ever seen and i'm closing in on my 20th anniversary here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585557)

Bro what the fuck are you talking about? What part of "different discussions can pop up as a thread progresses" are you not understanding? You've been poasting on XO for 20 years and you're autistically screeching about "uhhhh look at the top poast hurr durrr" as some sort of rebuttal to me responding to a *different point* that arose later down the subthread in a *subsequent* poast? Did you hit your head and forget how threads on XO work or something?

I don't even know what to say for the rest of this shit, yes -- having sex with a woman to ejaculation, and having (non-penetrative) fun fondling a bunch of different bitches titties and asses, are inarguably two totally different activities. Period. Even literal retards grasp that distinction. "Ackkkkshually..." just stop already, and also you're the one calling ME autistic for pointing out this incredibly obvious distinction?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49587369)

Seems loserish to be hitting on brown chicks in a club in your 40s and 50s, even if you do manage to get laid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585926)

Agreed, and the exact same reasoning applies to frequenting strip clubs, btw. Which is why I expressly disavowed both of those activities above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49587386)

I've been to Tijuana multiple times (always with Mexicans) and hit up bars and clubs, etc. It's a total shithole and not a particularly safe city and I'm not looking to go back again, but it worked out fine and it definitely would not have been hard to slay IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585029)

Fair but we're literally discussing a whorehouse located in Tijuana in this subthread so that's the operative datapoint

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585054)

then the hotel phone rings and it's the front desk. lady tells me, "you gotta come down and get yo food, we don't be letting drivers go upsturs." so i tell her this. this bitch is wearing a nightie that barely covers her ass and tits, and she walks down to the fucking lobby.

at this point, i nearly fled because i thought the front desk was gonna call the cops after they saw her. but instead i waited for her to come back with her styrofoam container of food. i let her suck my dick and quickly ran away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585568)

another time i was driving home from philly after 2-3 days of labor negotations and i timed my drive home so that i could see this mexican whore at a BWI airport hotel. i told her NO PERFUME, and i walk in the room and the goddamn room smells like someone spilled three bottles of the stuff in it, and she is covered in all kinds of perfumey lotion and shit.

after i fucked her, i stopped for gas and sprayed myself with gasoline. when i got home, my wife asked wtf the smell was and i said i was getting gas and the pump just kinda blew up on me, or some unbelievable nonsense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49586065)

the day after she caught me she said i know all about the escorts. i said wtf are you talking about? and she said "oh yeah? what about jada stevens? i went on autoadmit" and i knew i was done here.

so she knows all about this shit. she also knows that me and the mistress did threesomes with whores when wife and i were split up and i was living with the mistress.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49587437)

Yes. It was 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821184&forum_id=2Elisa#49585570)