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hey libs is earning $2 BILLION per DAY from tariffs good or bad?

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translucent hall
  04/09/25
at the cost of trillions?
Electric Property Prole
  04/09/25
lol what trillions? you mean the money we will save when we ...
translucent hall
  04/09/25
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Pungent psychic
  04/09/25
Don't bother. Once there's a 30+ point IQ gap communication ...
Beady-eyed frum puppy mental disorder
  04/09/25
stfu upset jew
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shivering cyan house
  04/09/25
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Talented Cuckoldry Fortuitous Meteor
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translucent hall
  04/09/25
in their minds $10 trillion for the extended warranty is an ...
Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma
  04/09/25
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Electric Property Prole
  04/09/25
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Heady fantasy-prone pistol
  04/09/25
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dead business firm
  04/09/25
its totally 180 cause its at the cost of $5b a day in lower ...
light splenetic ticket booth
  04/09/25
show your math
translucent hall
  04/09/25
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Heady fantasy-prone pistol
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  04/09/25
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  04/09/25
taking $2B out of the hands of consumers and putting it in T...
Cerise hissy fit
  04/09/25
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sticky bawdyhouse gay wizard
  04/09/25
you are a mentally retarded jewish pedophile who is pretendi...
stimulating really tough guy nursing home
  04/09/25
Wtf I love taxes now!
carnelian sound barrier
  04/09/25
taxing foreigners is 180 and should have been done a long ti...
stimulating really tough guy nursing home
  04/09/25
why would foreigners pay the tariffs?
Cerise hissy fit
  04/09/25
because orange tits said so
Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma
  04/09/25
stop asking retarded questions you annoying jewish pedo reta...
stimulating really tough guy nursing home
  04/09/25
OFS- questions are so fucking stupid and shitibby
Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma
  04/09/25
stick to one moniker freak
stimulating really tough guy nursing home
  04/09/25
ok PUMO, once again your logic and reasoning overpower me. ...
Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma
  04/09/25
he's not a lawyer, don't think he even went to college
Cerise hissy fit
  04/09/25
you are a retarded jewish pedophile and are talking to yours...
stimulating really tough guy nursing home
  04/09/25
thank you for making the case for us. May I interest you in ...
Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma
  04/09/25
get the fuck off the internet already you psycho
stimulating really tough guy nursing home
  04/09/25
I'll send you the number for a REALTOR. He'll definitely hav...
Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma
  04/09/25
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  04/09/25
you pee sitting down and fart cum from your asshole and lol ...
stimulating really tough guy nursing home
  04/09/25
It’s true! He’s a faggot, and he sucks.
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  04/09/25
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shivering cyan house
  04/09/25
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shivering cyan house
  04/09/25
How's that BEACH FRONT PROPERTY Time Share working out for y...
Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma
  04/09/25
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translucent hall
  04/09/25
Nothing will be undone even if Trump somehow digs in for his...
carnelian sound barrier
  04/09/25
of course it will. china and the EU has needed to go get fu...
stimulating really tough guy nursing home
  04/09/25
When will the deportations of non-Americans begin brother?
carnelian sound barrier
  04/09/25
Not only has it come at great cost (see discussion above) bu...
Aromatic cuckold native
  04/09/25
why is letting the middle class keep their own money "s...
stimulating really tough guy nursing home
  04/09/25
supports student loan forgiveness supports open borders wit...
vibrant violet principal's office electric furnace
  04/09/25
Yeah, we’re literally taking this money to give to far...
sticky bawdyhouse gay wizard
  04/09/25
Trump should use $1 million of it per day and have a lottery...
Concupiscible station
  04/09/25
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dark provocative national
  04/09/25
this would be outrageously entertaining
translucent hall
  04/09/25
This is the Klarna (((Plan)))!
bistre exciting point
  04/09/25
Libs hate america and they hate strength and success. Really...
shivering cyan house
  04/09/25
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translucent hall
  04/09/25
OP, why doesn’t Trump want to earn $2 billion in tarif...
sticky bawdyhouse gay wizard
  04/09/25
yes I’m very upset about I refuse to be a fool agai...
translucent hall
  04/09/25
Why do you hate freedumb?
Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma
  04/09/25
cuz I’m a Nazi dunce
translucent hall
  04/09/25
great we can regain what was lost in 2 days and we only have...
razzmatazz juggernaut stag film
  04/09/25
are we still earning that now that tariffs are paused? op?
Cerise hissy fit
  04/09/25
they aren’t paused they’re reduced until we sort...
translucent hall
  04/09/25
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/11/investing/stock-market-dow-ta...
razzmatazz juggernaut stag film
  04/13/25
a national sales tax that wipes off trillions in savings and...
appetizing goyim
  04/09/25
well we got the senile orange nigger instead
Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma
  04/10/25
$500M* And it’s so weird to see cons brag about a ...
motley preventive strike
  04/17/25
What did America due to be cursed with such morons as TDNW?
motley preventive strike
  04/21/25
Many People Are Asking This!
flirting factory reset button casino
  04/21/25
you mad that we making billions while also saving billions?
translucent hall
  04/21/25
ok so it’s only $20 billion a month OP pwned htt...
translucent hall
  06/02/25
and now just $27 billion in June, $100 billion for the YTD ...
translucent hall
  07/18/25
$29bn in July! https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us-co...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/05/25


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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:10 AM
Author: translucent hall



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:17 AM
Author: Electric Property Prole

at the cost of trillions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830326)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:37 AM
Author: translucent hall

lol what trillions? you mean the money we will save when we refinance, tariff earnings, and economic benefits of reshoring?

if you’re talking about your internet money lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830555)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Pungent psychic



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:40 AM
Author: Beady-eyed frum puppy mental disorder

Don't bother. Once there's a 30+ point IQ gap communication becomes impossible and will result in literal brain pain if attempted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830560)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:40 AM
Author: stimulating really tough guy nursing home

stfu upset jew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830563)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: shivering cyan house



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Date: April 9th, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: Talented Cuckoldry Fortuitous Meteor



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Date: April 9th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: translucent hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48832124)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma

in their minds $10 trillion for the extended warranty is an EXCELLENT deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830670)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Electric Property Prole



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Heady fantasy-prone pistol



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: dead business firm



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:18 AM
Author: light splenetic ticket booth

its totally 180 cause its at the cost of $5b a day in lower cap gains, income and business taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830330)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:40 AM
Author: translucent hall

show your math

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830562)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: Heady fantasy-prone pistol



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:21 AM
Author: Lime Coldplay Fan Theater Stage



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:38 AM
Author: sticky bawdyhouse gay wizard

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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:44 AM
Author: Cerise hissy fit

taking $2B out of the hands of consumers and putting it in Trump's hands instead sounds bad tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830576)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: sticky bawdyhouse gay wizard



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: stimulating really tough guy nursing home

you are a mentally retarded jewish pedophile who is pretending that Biden didn't spend the last four years doing exactly that except he was just handing it over directly to GC. Trump in this case is just ripping off the chinks and euros, which makes people like you who hate Americans very upset.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830668)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:55 AM
Author: carnelian sound barrier

Wtf I love taxes now!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830616)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: stimulating really tough guy nursing home

taxing foreigners is 180 and should have been done a long time ago. manufacturing inflation and eroding the wealth of regular people to benefit GC and foreigners like Biden and Obama did was 120. it will take a while to undo the fuckery they caused.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830677)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Cerise hissy fit

why would foreigners pay the tariffs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830679)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma

because orange tits said so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830695)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: stimulating really tough guy nursing home

stop asking retarded questions you annoying jewish pedo retarded fag.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830700)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma

OFS- questions are so fucking stupid and shitibby

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830708)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: stimulating really tough guy nursing home

stick to one moniker freak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830711)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma

ok PUMO, once again your logic and reasoning overpower me.

State your LSAT Score

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830731)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:16 AM
Author: Cerise hissy fit

he's not a lawyer, don't think he even went to college

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830740)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: stimulating really tough guy nursing home

you are a retarded jewish pedophile and are talking to yourself and lol at going to "law school"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830751)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:21 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma

thank you for making the case for us. May I interest you in an extended warranty? It comes with a complimentary YETI Cooler!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830769)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: stimulating really tough guy nursing home

get the fuck off the internet already you psycho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830778)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma

I'll send you the number for a REALTOR. He'll definitely have your back!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830785)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: Aromatic cuckold native



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: stimulating really tough guy nursing home

you pee sitting down and fart cum from your asshole and lol at the "are you even a lawyer" line having any meaning. you people are all retarded fags as was evidenced long ago by the clear IQ gap between the college and law boards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830792)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: Demanding hairy legs whorehouse

It’s true! He’s a faggot, and he sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830798)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: shivering cyan house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830803)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: shivering cyan house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830802)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma

How's that BEACH FRONT PROPERTY Time Share working out for you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830839)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:14 PM
Author: translucent hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48831486)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: carnelian sound barrier

Nothing will be undone even if Trump somehow digs in for his entire term

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830692)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: stimulating really tough guy nursing home

of course it will. china and the EU has needed to go get fucked for a long time. they rely on us more than we need them and it's bullshit. you bots are all just mad bc you're all foreign and don't like americans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830710)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:16 AM
Author: carnelian sound barrier

When will the deportations of non-Americans begin brother?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830738)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: Aromatic cuckold native

Not only has it come at great cost (see discussion above) but the GOP is planning on using the revenue gains to partially offset its stupid tax cut bill. So it's a nice little transfer of income and wealth from the bottom to the top of the income bracket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830796)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: stimulating really tough guy nursing home

why is letting the middle class keep their own money "stupid"? also why is intentionally causing massive inflation through massive spending bills like Biden did not considered a tax/wealth transfer from the poor to rich and americans to foreigners, but somehow forcing these foreign countries who hate us and rip us off to finally pay their fair share is a "wealth transfer"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830822)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:42 AM
Author: vibrant violet principal's office electric furnace

supports student loan forgiveness

supports open borders with free travel, housing, healthcare

supports locking down economy for the flu

tariffs used as a tool to get better trade deals for americans? idiocy!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830873)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: sticky bawdyhouse gay wizard

Yeah, we’re literally taking this money to give to farmers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48830888)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: Concupiscible station

Trump should use $1 million of it per day and have a lottery where his voters can win it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48831084)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: dark provocative national



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: translucent hall

this would be outrageously entertaining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48831488)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: bistre exciting point

This is the Klarna (((Plan)))!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48831116)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 11:50 AM
Author: shivering cyan house

Libs hate america and they hate strength and success. Really sick idiotic people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48831140)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: translucent hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48831490)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: sticky bawdyhouse gay wizard

OP, why doesn’t Trump want to earn $2 billion in tariffs per day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48831967)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: translucent hall

yes I’m very upset about

I refuse to be a fool again and I will NOT being voting for him a 4th time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48831991)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma

Why do you hate freedumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48832129)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: translucent hall

cuz I’m a Nazi dunce

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48832162)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: razzmatazz juggernaut stag film

great we can regain what was lost in 2 days and we only have to wait 15 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48832062)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Cerise hissy fit

are we still earning that now that tariffs are paused? op?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48832797)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 7:27 PM
Author: translucent hall

they aren’t paused they’re reduced until we sort out better deals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48832875)



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Date: April 13th, 2025 3:36 AM
Author: razzmatazz juggernaut stag film

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/11/investing/stock-market-dow-tariffs/index.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48842127)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:57 PM
Author: appetizing goyim

a national sales tax that wipes off trillions in savings and brings stagflation? i would've thought you were a dope smoking nigger if you told me this would be official policy of the GOP a few years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48833484)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:39 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Corner Friendly Grandma

well we got the senile orange nigger instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48833916)



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Date: April 17th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: motley preventive strike

$500M*

And it’s so weird to see cons brag about a GOP POTUS unilaterally passing a huge tax increase on Americans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48857304)



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Date: April 21st, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: motley preventive strike

What did America due to be cursed with such morons as TDNW?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48867664)



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Date: April 21st, 2025 4:08 PM
Author: flirting factory reset button casino

Many People Are Asking This!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48867739)



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Date: April 21st, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: translucent hall

you mad that we making billions while also saving billions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48867832)



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Date: June 2nd, 2025 11:05 PM
Author: translucent hall

ok so it’s only $20 billion a month

OP pwned

https://x.com/csalcedoshow/status/1929714697697480820

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#48982290)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 2:49 AM
Author: translucent hall

and now just $27 billion in June, $100 billion for the YTD

US is fucked

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trumps-tariff-revenue-hit-another-monthly-record-june.amp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#49111050)



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Date: August 5th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

$29bn in July!

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us-collects-29b-tariff-revenues-july-setting-new-monthly-record.amp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707893&forum_id=2Elisa#49157967)