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Super realistic AI-generated kid porn. Protected by the 1A or no?
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:14 AM Author: Razzle sanctuary Discuss (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859024) |
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Date: September 30th, 2023 7:54 AM Author: Histrionic forum No, because the bill of rights doesn’t apply to computers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46863107) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 12:14 PM Author: provocative jew ladyboy (Clarence Thomas) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47161859) |
Date: September 29th, 2023 11:15 AM Author: Transparent Theatre International Law Enforcement Agency no porn is protected by the first amendment
porn is not speech, no matter what sniveling jewish jurists in the 20th century claim |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:18 AM Author: Razzle sanctuary What about under the existing judicial scholarship? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859039) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:22 AM Author: Transparent Theatre International Law Enforcement Agency the existing "judicial scholarship" about the first amendment protecting porn is made-up arbitrary nonsense
it protects all kinds of porn, except when some judge or prosecutor arbitrarily decides that some particular instance of porn is heckin bad, or they don't like the defendant, or it's politically expedient for them to prosecute, in which case it doesn't protect that porn
lawyers are so fucking pedantic and small minded man |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:24 AM Author: contagious mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859080) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 12:04 PM Author: titillating lilac boistinker lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859295) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 12:21 PM Author: razzmatazz hideous knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859406) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 12:15 PM Author: provocative jew ladyboy cr, surprised i didn't need to read very far (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47161865) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 12:44 PM Author: vivacious hot elastic band People should have to get verified before they use the internet, like TSA pre-check. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47161994) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:16 AM Author: irate at-the-ready piazza (lib really interested in answer to this question) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859031) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:38 AM Author: yapping alpha principal's office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859151) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 12:46 PM Author: Crystalline aromatic university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47161998) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:17 AM Author: carmine chapel Jesus Spaceporn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859037) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:51 AM Author: supple background story private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859229) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:19 AM Author: Bateful turdskin hell Yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859050) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:20 AM Author: Razzle sanctuary Why (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859055) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:20 AM Author: Bateful turdskin hell why wouldn't it be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859057) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:24 AM Author: carmine chapel Think of someone 10 or under who you're close to. Child, nephew, someone you teach or coach.
Now think of someone taking their image and feeding it into a computer model to make depraved porn out of it.
Now think of Spaceporn downloading those images. |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:27 AM Author: Bateful turdskin hell Ok? People do all sorts of sick shit on their PCs. Don't see how this affects the kid or me. Sickos hang out in public and look at kids (including children im close to) to masturbate to later. Wtf am i or you gonna do about that? |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:28 AM Author: carmine chapel This is an internet edgelord defense that I don't think you'd make if the situation were real. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859098) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:30 AM Author: Bateful turdskin hell what "situation"? somebody using prompts to generate depraved images of a child that i'm close to? first of all, how would i even know that they're doing that? second, what's the difference between that and pedos masturbating to depraved thoughts of children that they see in public? this happens to children that you are close to |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 12:01 PM Author: Twinkling orchestra pit "Wtf am i or you gonna do about that?"
We can literally execute these people where they stand |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:31 AM Author: Razzle sanctuary That’s a slightly different question since people own the copyright to their likeness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859113) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 12:14 PM Author: fiercely-loyal infuriating dragon This doesn’t sound right, but, if it is, I would love to sue every store that I have ever walked into that saved surveillance images of me and get my statutory damages for each image. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47161856) |
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Date: May 15th, 2025 8:42 PM Author: rick'claim panama (1) you chose to walk into the store (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#48935151) |
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Date: May 15th, 2025 8:59 PM Author: .,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,., it's not a copyright but there is law that you can't profit off of others' likeness without permission. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#48935176) |
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Date: October 1st, 2023 3:01 PM Author: misanthropic digit ratio Emotional appeal argument. Not persuasive in the eyes OF THE LAW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46869147) |
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Date: October 1st, 2023 5:45 PM Author: Bateful turdskin hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46869853) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:26 AM Author: Stimulating Dilemma Pervert No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859090) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:30 AM Author: Coral insane base stain I don't think the First Amendment speaks directly to the issue, and it should be illegal except if made/possessed by a minor not far in age from the depiction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859103) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:30 AM Author: carmine chapel The enforcement cost of that standard would be too high hence why we put out a blanket rule (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859108) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:31 AM Author: Coral insane base stain Why high enforcement cost, just make it a defense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859111) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:33 AM Author: carmine chapel Interpret my phrase "enforcement costs" broadly. Transaction costs. You're going to have huge costs as people litigate whether Brandon was 17.5 or 18.2 with the image of 14.3 year old Lisa. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859125) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 12:17 PM Author: Coral insane base stain Enforcement costs are how laws become efficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859376) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:32 AM Author: Sickened Impressive Location Obviously no founding father would support this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859116) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:32 AM Author: Bateful turdskin hell how is that obvious at all? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859120) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:47 AM Author: Sickened Impressive Location stfu jewbag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859208) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:49 AM Author: Bateful turdskin hell i denounce the talmud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859225) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:54 AM Author: Sickened Impressive Location https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1049008/jewish/Telling-the-Truth-and-When-It-Is-Permissible-to-Be-Less-Than-Honest.htm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859246) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:55 AM Author: Bateful turdskin hell stfu goybag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859252) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:48 AM Author: Cobalt whorehouse liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859217) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:36 AM Author: Razzle sanctuary But where would they draw the line? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859141) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:38 AM Author: milky soul-stirring idea he suggested wrinkle thomas jefferson impregnated his child slaves. not sure he should be the moral arbiter here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859156) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:48 AM Author: Sickened Impressive Location https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-jews-and-their-lies_martin-luther/1463737/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859214) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:53 AM Author: milky soul-stirring idea he suggested wrinkle i believe this was before Martin Luther was president (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859238) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:43 AM Author: yapping alpha principal's office Anyone who is producing or watching this is sick. Only remedy is a bullet to the head. End of story. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859177) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:55 AM Author: cerise bespoke incel business firm would it be according to the founders? no. would it be according to current jurisprudence? toss-up depending on the court and details of the case. should it be in a theoretical healthy society where free speech is given the sanctity it merits? yes. should it be in our society? no.
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Date: December 12th, 2023 11:56 AM Author: Razzle sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47161784) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 12:32 PM Author: frisky chrome athletic conference elaborate on your fourth point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47161933) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:55 AM Author: Pearly Den Mediation we'll see what unfolds! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859253) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:57 AM Author: Multi-colored Crusty Sandwich I seem to remember some case where a porn producer was making porn with adults who were dressed up like kids and he was arrested or shut down or something for that. So I think that would be the same thing. I don't know if it would be considered criminal but it would definitely be stopped/censored I have to think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859260) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 12:00 PM Author: Sickened Impressive Location it was the little lupe case, which the government lost (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859271) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 12:10 PM Author: Amethyst Shrine Party Of The First Part He was a hottie. Now she's a grown porn girl and still pretty hot for huge fake tits type (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859327) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 12:02 PM Author: Razzle sanctuary I don’t think that’s per se illegal or else stuff like horrorporn wouldn’t be hosted on tube sites (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859287) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 12:12 PM Author: passionate organic girlfriend rehab that url. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859341) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 1:15 PM Author: titillating lilac boistinker lodge sfw i assum,e? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859682) |
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Date: October 1st, 2023 2:59 PM Author: Razzle sanctuary ofc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46869138) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 12:11 PM Author: learning disabled library is this a thinly veiled request (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859333) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 7:31 PM Author: milky soul-stirring idea he suggested wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47163717) |
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Date: September 29th, 2023 12:12 PM Author: Fuchsia potus Yes. Don't make me copy + paste I'm lazy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46859345) |
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Date: October 1st, 2023 3:02 PM Author: misanthropic digit ratio You don't even need to get to 1A protection argument imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46869152) |
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Date: October 1st, 2023 3:06 PM Author: Razzle sanctuary Say some jurisdiction prosecutes a content creator for it and the defendant raises a constitutional defense. does it succeed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46869170) |
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Date: October 1st, 2023 3:08 PM Author: misanthropic digit ratio Don't know enough about existing law application to anime etc. but don't think AI would be covered by anti kiddie porn statute in the first place (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46869174) |
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Date: October 1st, 2023 3:10 PM Author: Razzle sanctuary Don’t fight the hypo. In this example you should assume there’s a statute specifically making AI-generated CP illegal and someone gets prosecuted under it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46869185) |
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Date: October 1st, 2023 3:11 PM Author: misanthropic digit ratio Then by the time this happens Trump will be Grand Vizir and everyone involved will be summarily executed as necessary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46869192) |
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Date: October 1st, 2023 4:19 PM Author: Cracking Hospital Miller? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46869503) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 9:36 AM Author: Razzle sanctuary What (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46872142) |
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Date: October 1st, 2023 5:47 PM Author: Sadistic Mildly Autistic Mother Ape IRL they revive the obscenity standard and just make a stand alone judgment, with no real precedential value, that this shit is obscene and move the fuck on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#46869858) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 1:17 PM Author: Copper thriller scourge upon the earth I know nothing about the jurisprudence in this area, but I would argue that it should be illegal. Two reasons: 1) It is too hard to tell the difference between the real stuff and the fake stuff, which would make it too hard to prosecute those who make the real stuff. 2) If some kid's face ends up on AI-generated porn and that video gets distributed around their middle school, they are going to be facing some very serious bullying and emotional trauma. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47162130) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 1:34 PM Author: stirring church building generalized bond i'd hope we could all agree that this would be obscene and outside of 1st amendment protection. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47162184) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 2:24 PM Author: bright internal respiration Sure bud, sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47162376) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 7:46 PM Author: Copper thriller scourge upon the earth I will go on the record as saying I disagree. I think the right to free speech should be nearly as absolute as possible. Restrictions on free speech are only justified if they are necessary to protect other people. If someone creates AI generated kiddie porn and shares it with a couple creeps on the Internet to jack off, nobody is hurt, so it should be protected. We don't need a First Amendment to protect non-controversial speech. It's the really disgusting speech that needs to be protected.
To be clear, I still think it should be banned, but not on obscenity grounds. As I said above, there's no good way to determine what's real and what's fake, and I worry about some creep creating deepfakes of a 6th grader. But if you could allow AI-generated kiddie porn while prohibiting the real stuff and deepfakes, then it should be protected speech IMHO. |
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Date: May 15th, 2025 8:53 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) All of these arguments are true of the vast majority of real CP, which was created ages ago (the "kids" in the video are older than you are and often dead already). It's also empirically untrue that demand feeds supply in any way in this field. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#48935169) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 2:21 PM Author: vivacious hot elastic band Heh, it's all fake judge. If you zoom in you can see the pixelation where she was wearing pants. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47162365) |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 3:42 PM Author: violent clear station Aren’t digital images depicting a minor, even if completely artificially created, already a violation of federal law? I would think the OPs question would have been litigated a long time ago.
https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-federal-law-child-pornography |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 7:29 PM Author: Razzle sanctuary idk any bort scholars want to weigh in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#47163710) |
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Date: May 15th, 2025 7:16 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. Federal District Judge in Wisconsin ruled earlier this year that POSSESSION of such material is constitutionally protected but PRODUCTION and DISTRIBUTION are not. Government is appealing.
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/child-abuse-ai-judge-charges-b2717291.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com |
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Date: May 15th, 2025 7:28 PM Author: we have such sights to show you you forgot to say asking for a friend tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#48934938) |
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Date: May 15th, 2025 9:04 PM Author: Covid was a Hoax it would be 9-0 with the sc hammering that degenerate shit into the ground like a railroad spike. the more interesting question would be if the sc would even grant certiorari assuming the coa shot down the argument that it was 1a protected. the sc might actually do it just to destroy any possibility of it ever becoming an issue because the argument would be so ridiculous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5415165&forum_id=2Elisa#48935183) |