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Poasters with Obese Wives- do you ever actually have sex with them?
| lime startling university old irish cottage | 05/21/24 |
| glassy racy kitchen | 07/04/24 |
| citrine bawdyhouse french chef | 07/04/24 |
| Trip cuck corner | 07/04/24 |
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| lime startling university old irish cottage | 07/05/24 |
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| Excitant burgundy corn cake juggernaut | 07/05/24 |
| rusted motley resort puppy | 07/05/24 |
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| rusted motley resort puppy | 07/05/24 |
| charismatic naked rigor | 07/05/24 |
| hateful faggotry | 07/05/24 |
| rusted motley resort puppy | 07/06/24 |
| lime startling university old irish cottage | 07/08/24 |
| walnut bat shit crazy party of the first part | 07/05/24 |
| Lilac trust fund | 07/05/24 |
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| lime startling university old irish cottage | 07/08/24 |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 9:20 AM Author: lime startling university old irish cottage seem revolting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47679249) |
Date: July 4th, 2024 5:20 PM Author: glassy racy kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47809737) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 5:23 PM Author: citrine bawdyhouse french chef No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47809752) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 6:22 PM Author: Trip cuck corner Didn’t know you was a rancher, bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47809914) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 6:29 PM Author: citrine bawdyhouse french chef I appreciate fat girls with big hips and asses, which is not my wife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47809930) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 7:47 AM Author: lime startling university old irish cottage go on... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811187) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:05 AM Author: citrine bawdyhouse french chef My wife is a potbellied ogre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811341) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:07 AM Author: Excitant burgundy corn cake juggernaut 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811345) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:14 AM Author: rusted motley resort puppy i have some research questions about this because i don't understand being married to a fat
-- was she always fat? -- if not, what changed? -- are you fat? -- why haven't you told her to lose weight? |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:28 AM Author: citrine bawdyhouse french chef She started binge eating during pregnancy and didn't stop. I'm not fat. Sure I tell her all the time, she doesn't give a shit. She is a good mom so ultimately I don't care, she is smart enough to know how to lose the weight if/when she wants to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811464) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:33 AM Author: mentally impaired meetinghouse useless brakes you can't be a "good mom" while being fat. she's imprinting a fat spirit onto your children and condemning them to sloth and excess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811474) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:13 AM Author: rusted motley resort puppy !!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811578) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:15 AM Author: hateful faggotry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811586) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:47 AM Author: bisexual chad field If he teaches his kids to exercise and eat right they aren’t necessarily doomed. Observing an obese parent up close and seeing how society treats the obese can be a great motivator to have good habits. I have a very close friend who is a fitness obsessive and probably my fittest friend and his dad was an obesemo who died at age 55. But their childrens’ future marriage track relationship partners will look at her and rethink whether to marry his kids. On top of worrying that the kids will be fat and gross for most of the marriage it’s the image in their heads of the wedding day etc. that is just ruined as a fantasy the second they see her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811673) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 3:09 PM Author: Pearly shrine roommate ime this is really hard to counterbalance the influence of the fat wife, who is undoubtedly obsessed with snacks and body positivity. the psyche of most of these women is to absolutely doom their children into being lethargic beasts.
a kid/father has no chance against the mothers who are absolutely juvenile in their tastes and interests. If this woman likes the lion king and harry potter its game over |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 3:19 PM Author: mentally impaired meetinghouse useless brakes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812583) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 11:33 AM Author: Boyish salmon native OFS- obesity is contagious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811847) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 12:03 PM Author: charismatic naked rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811976) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:18 PM Author: Coral regret come on, disco fries is a good person (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47818586) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:18 AM Author: heady forum Have you considered not being gay or jewish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811598) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:27 AM Author: rusted motley resort puppy Why does she not care?
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:40 AM Author: citrine bawdyhouse french chef Her true form is water buffalo, how many fat wives do you see around fayetteville (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811655) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 11:02 AM Author: rusted motley resort puppy Not at Bragg, brother, but point taken.
I suppose what I don't understand is staying married to someone who refuses to take care of themselves, or marrying somebody in the first place for whom that is not a significant priority.
Thank you for participating in my survey though. |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 11:11 AM Author: citrine bawdyhouse french chef She used to run and work out every day prior to pregnancy. Having a healthy baby feels like winning the lottery, I would not leave at this point, even if it irritating to watch her eat like a sumo wrestler. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811765) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 11:12 AM Author: Lilac trust fund Can she tie her own shoes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811768) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 11:32 AM Author: rusted motley resort puppy Very interesting. Have you probed her on why she stopped and why she has become such a grotesque creature? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811842) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:15 AM Author: hateful faggotry So proud of my wife for not turning into a pig while pregnant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811587) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:21 AM Author: citrine bawdyhouse french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811608) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:27 AM Author: rusted motley resort puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811619) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 12:03 PM Author: charismatic naked rigor You need to get her a card that say this.
Women need to be congratulated on their good efforts. |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 1:30 PM Author: hateful faggotry Awesome idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812254) |
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Date: July 6th, 2024 9:01 PM Author: rusted motley resort puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47816161) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 4:43 AM Author: lime startling university old irish cottage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47819417) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:18 AM Author: walnut bat shit crazy party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811389) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:41 AM Author: Lilac trust fund Oh my... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811496) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 11:30 AM Author: Vermilion Provocative Faggot Firefighter Center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811837) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:32 AM Author: aphrodisiac mustard electric furnace Wife's heaviest has been in the 120s lbs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811470) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 9:41 AM Author: Lilac trust fund Did her tits get huge? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811493) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:28 AM Author: aphrodisiac mustard electric furnace She has double Ds from a combo of babies and doctor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811622) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:51 AM Author: Lilac trust fund Does she get pissed if you randomly reach out and give one a squeeze or is she cool with getting felt up randomly? This is my true test of a good woman. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811684) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:52 AM Author: aphrodisiac mustard electric furnace Brother, her body is mine and she knows it. LOL @ her ever getting mad that I like and enjoy her body.
I couldn't imagine marrying a woman who DISLIKES me touching her. |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:55 AM Author: Lilac trust fund I think many of the short-dicked, dorky, baldmos on this site have women who shrink from their cheeseball-dust-covered fingers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811702) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 12:51 PM Author: aphrodisiac mustard electric furnace divorce them and move on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812114) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 12:04 PM Author: charismatic naked rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811978) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 11:34 AM Author: Boyish salmon native good test- if she isn't good with having her ass and tits groped regularly, what's the point? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811853) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:28 AM Author: obsidian indian lodge son of senegal What is her height? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811621) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:29 AM Author: aphrodisiac mustard electric furnace 5'4" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811624) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 1:36 PM Author: 180 church pervert also her dick size? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812269) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 2:53 PM Author: aphrodisiac mustard electric furnace born without friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812513) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 4:43 AM Author: lime startling university old irish cottage sorry for your loss (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47819418) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:20 AM Author: aphrodisiac mustard electric furnace i still enjoy these on the side though but its been about half a year now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47820083) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 10:23 AM Author: obsidian indian lodge son of senegal Our bull doesn’t care (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811610) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 11:13 AM Author: Boyish salmon native cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47811769) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 2:05 PM Author: Lilac trust fund I was really hoping for some stories about far rolls and 80 pound legs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812361) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 2:48 PM Author: cracking yarmulke giraffe Yes.
My wife is 5'3 and about 180 pounds. I love her but am not attracted to her physically and feel a deep sense of disappointment when I look at her. How did this happen?
She was this size when we met. I chose to date her and marry her for a few reasons:
She was ready to be a wife and have children, unlike some of the other chicks that I had dated.
I was in my late 30s and feeling pressure to find someone, and I was seeing a massive lack of thin women on the apps.
She was a religious VIRGIN.
She was from an old money Southern family that was a member of all the right sororities, cotillions, clubs, etc. in their city and state. Growing up, my family had plenty of money (similar to hers), but for various reasons we were sort of on the edge of that world, never fully in it. I wanted to be in the middle of it.
I was a big Chad before getting married and hooked up with lots of hot chicks, but when it came time to look for a wife, finding a girl who was wife material and also highly attractive just wasn't an option. As mentioned above, part of the issue was taking so long to settle down. It is tough, and I frequently think of the hot sluts that I banged along the way.
To top it off, my wife refuses to live in my town and stays in her home city in a neighboring state, several hours away. I'm in great shape, so her desire for sex greatly surpasses mine. We have one baby so far, which is incredible. I am hoping to impregnate her again very soon. Once that happens, I will have more leverage in the relationship and I hope I can get some kind of change in my situation. |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 2:51 PM Author: Lilac trust fund The only change you're going to see is that she gets so huge she'll acquire orbiting moons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812495) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 2:52 PM Author: 180 church pervert the XO story: big Chad bangs lots of chicks, settles for Monica Lewinsky. Semi-regrets it, poasts on a racist chat boart of incel autistics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812501) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 3:16 PM Author: stimulating dysfunction This "big Chad" was "struggling to find thin women on apps."
lol bro, the thin women are there, they just arent righit swiping you |
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Date: July 6th, 2024 9:55 AM Author: ebony office nowag I’m guessing these “hot chicks” he bagged are 3-4s/10. He also married a hog because of her father’s country club connections lmao. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47814403) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 3:00 PM Author: Trip cuck corner Can you post a pic of this fat pig? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812533) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 3:08 PM Author: Onyx Space Jewess Baby #2 will definitely give you leverage. Bwahhahah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812557) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 3:10 PM Author: glittery flatulent genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812559) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 3:11 PM Author: citrine bawdyhouse french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812565) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 3:18 PM Author: cracking yarmulke giraffe I understand. My thinking is, if I lay down the law and she leaves me, at least I have two kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812581) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 3:18 PM Author: glittery flatulent genital piercing wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812582) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 3:31 PM Author: cracking yarmulke giraffe ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812619) |
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Date: July 6th, 2024 9:41 PM Author: rusted motley resort puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47816298) |
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Date: July 6th, 2024 9:57 AM Author: ebony office nowag Youll be paying her 75% of your salary while she rides the cock carosel and you get to see your kids 2 days a week sounds like you made poor life decisions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47814404) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 4:26 PM Author: mentally impaired meetinghouse useless brakes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812748) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 4:34 PM Author: Unholy address Just wait until #3 comes! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812765) |
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Date: July 6th, 2024 9:36 AM Author: walnut bat shit crazy party of the first part Great poa/moniker synergy, Autism City Limits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47814379) |
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Date: July 6th, 2024 9:37 AM Author: walnut bat shit crazy party of the first part 9474738;76364838384747 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47814381) |
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Date: July 6th, 2024 9:44 AM Author: Claret dopamine lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47814386) |
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Date: July 6th, 2024 9:58 AM Author: laughsome lodge sex offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47814407) |
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Date: July 5th, 2024 3:16 PM Author: stimulating dysfunction Imagine the smell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47812578) |
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Date: July 6th, 2024 10:02 AM Author: laughsome lodge sex offender I fortunately did not marry her, but I did date a girl for several years and she went from slender to average to chubby to obese in front of my eyes. She was apparently oblivious to the dynamics at play: I was the high-earner dating a girl way too hot for me, she was the hot girl enjoying the lifestyle she'd never be able to afford on her own (on her teacher's salary). I kept up my end of the bargain. I did gain a few biglaw pounds-- who doesn't?-- but when I went in house I hit the gym and worked it all off. Towards the end she'd brag about her "big tits" but it doesn't count if it's just a byproduct of overall fatness. I wasn't even sexually attracted to her any more. I broke it off, because I knew she'd never go back to the girl I met. She married some male teacher who is also FAT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47814412) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 4:44 AM Author: lime startling university old irish cottage ATD I hope? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47819419) |
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Date: July 6th, 2024 11:51 PM Author: sable alpha My wife was slightly overweight when we got married, but she ballooned into a whale over time. I had sex with her less and less as time went on, and I stopped completely about six years ago. I decided there was no point in having sex if I don't enjoy it and that becoming a cheatmo was a better option. She doesn't do anything to stop me when I go to hang out with other women. I tell her I don't have sex with them. I don't know if she is naive enough to believe me or if she's just in denial. It's not ideal, but I guess it works for us. She's 180 other than the fact that I am not sexually attracted to her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47816631) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:16 PM Author: Boyish salmon native kids? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47818579) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 4:33 AM Author: sable alpha Nope. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47819413) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2026 3:32 PM Author: Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption ( ) then why stay? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#49977320) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:23 AM Author: concupiscible turdskin dead bedroom here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5530953&forum_id=2Elisa#47820092) |