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Why universal child care harms children
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:27 AM Author: sable concupiscible set tank Lmao https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/11/05/universal-child-care-can-harm-children (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572089) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:29 AM Author: bright hospital paywall: https://archive.ph/7vLMA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572103) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:58 AM Author: sticky opaque parlor famous landscape painting Why don't they tell us how many kids were monitored? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575225) |
Date: January 8th, 2026 11:31 AM Author: bright hospital i'm 5 paragraphs in and the author hasnt presented his thesis. jfc this is bad writing. can someone summarize. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572128) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:40 AM Author: Sooty institution coffee pot probably due to niggers and/or poors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572174) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 2:19 PM Author: Impertinent Swashbuckling Stag Film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572668) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:59 AM Author: sticky opaque parlor famous landscape painting They won't even tell you the sample size (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575230) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 4:03 PM Author: razzle-dazzle gay house Universal child-care policies — especially ones that are cheap or free and start from infancy — can produce worse developmental outcomes for children when implemented at scale, largely because quality inevitably drops when demand surges and caregiver–child ratios worsen. The evidence cited (particularly from Quebec’s universal program) suggests increases in anxiety, aggression, hyperactivity and weaker motor/social skills compared with children not in such systems. This contrasts with high-quality, small-scale early-education programs (e.g., the Perry Preschool study), which show strong long-term benefits. The article’s point isn’t that public child care can’t help, but that universality without ensuring high quality can be detrimental to children’s early development. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49576773) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:35 AM Author: irate seedy windowlicker therapy If your mom “works” and she didn’t ace OCI, you’re basically fucked. This should not be normalized. If you don’t have Rides to ECs or Practice you’re going to bomb OCI and die of an overdose.
The $3000k/mo that people spend can’t be justified imho fwiw |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:40 AM Author: Spruce church building internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572173) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:37 AM Author: Citrine Unholy Orchestra Pit Azn moms need to be with their kids for the first two years, not two weeks
would be better to spend federal funds on longer maternal leave rather than daycare scams |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:00 PM Author: irate seedy windowlicker therapy Not breastfeeding kids for like 11 months causes them to be Short and Liberal like You imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572302) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:32 PM Author: Vivacious Piazza You can breastfeed while your kids are in daycare. Morning, nights, and weekends. And you send bottles in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573985) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:09 PM Author: bright hospital babies need to eat every 2-3 hours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574088) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:51 PM Author: Vivacious Piazza Yes, that’s why the milk is in bottles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574231) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:55 PM Author: bright hospital (female shrew) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574250) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:02 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage Core claim: Universal, heavily subsidized child care — especially from birth — can have negative effects on children’s development if implemented poorly or on too broad a scale.
Quality matters: The piece argues that universal programs often end up low-quality because they’re cheaper, scaled quickly, and can’t provide the one-on-one interaction infants need — meaning universal from-birth care can harm more than help.
Bottom line: The article isn’t saying all child care is bad. It’s asserting that universal child care as currently being rolled out in some places — particularly from birth and without enough quality controls — might harm child development because of rushed scaling, low adult-child ratios, and insufficient individual interaction opportunities. |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:05 PM Author: Sooty institution coffee pot same shitlib collectivist thinking of bringing their dogs to the "dog park" so they can play with other "dogs." dogs dont give a shit about that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572314) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:41 PM Author: Razzmatazz twinkling public bath Most dogs are social and 180 and benefit from running around with other dogs. It's very low IQ and antisocial to keep a dog isolated except for antisocial dogs like shitpits and standard poodle mixes, the broccoli headed mud zoomers of the dog world. Also, most white-owned dogs are way smarter and nicer than most humans, and we'd be better off with kill shelters for failed humans and 180 universal support for dogs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572441) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:50 PM Author: Sooty institution coffee pot Interesting. I'm just basing this on all the time growing up and stuff we'd get a dog and then were afraid it'd be "lonely" so we'd get another dog but in reality the two dogs just compete for human attention. I am not sure dogs need so much dog-on-dog interaction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572464) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 1:01 PM Author: Razzmatazz twinkling public bath If ur talking white households 30 years ago, things were a lot different than they are now for various reasons we don't need to go into (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572479) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 2:14 PM Author: Sooty institution coffee pot im white btw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572653) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:31 PM Author: sable concupiscible set tank People love 3k in NYC. I don’t know who leaves their infants with strangers but I could see having universal 1.5k or 2k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572399) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:43 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone frum hell I mean as a general statement this is based and completely correct
I'm not going to read some brown kike's drivel about it in "The Economist" though |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:50 PM Author: Citrine Unholy Orchestra Pit Azn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572462) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:57 PM Author: low-t den universal anything makes things worse for most people except for a small percentage of poors who just want free shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572476) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 1:03 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage yes most people are better off paying a lot of money than not paying (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572481) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 1:59 PM Author: low-t den this is true when it comes to healthcare. people are in fact better off paying for higher quality care they can afford vs. getting free shitcare (that they pay taxes for anyways). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572615) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 2:37 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage I also enjoy not having free options (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572747) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 3:14 PM Author: low-t den I enjoy having the option to purchase better things that poor people can't afford. "universal" healthcare eliminates that option. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572891) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 3:48 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage correct. In most countries with universal healthcare, there are no private doctors, insurance, or hospitals. These things just dont exist! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573015) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 3:49 PM Author: low-t den "other countries" those docs make like $65K and don't even know how to speak american (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573020) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 3:50 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage how horrible! affordable needs being met!
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Date: January 8th, 2026 3:54 PM Author: low-t den it actually is horrible. having shitty healthcare because your country is run by communists kind of sucks. at least you get to pay $50K in payroll taxes to save $5K in insurance premiums! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573035) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 3:59 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage (guy who has never lived abroad) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573053) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:51 PM Author: Sadistic contagious mother Which country? Exclude ones that were 90%+ white in 2000.
Anyways in case you haven't noticed public funds for dem programs are just stolen 30% of the time, and they offer shitty services. You clearly have no wife or kids and probably are some dorky ugly asian who was never really accepted by white people so you are bitter and want to destroy western civilization. |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 6:15 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage oh ur a GOP fag who blames dems. got it.
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:54 PM Author: Chartreuse hairless boltzmann resort "public funds for dem programs are just stolen 30% of the time,"
Oh...I see, we're just making shit up ITT. |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:41 AM Author: low-t den cr. it's way higher than 30% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575175) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:14 PM Author: Bearded erotic chad alpha are you retarded? tons of countries have universal healthcare and a supplementary private system (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573747) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:15 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage no way bro. i heard once you give away something for free, no one is willing to sell a better version for profit. like water, have you ever heard of a private company making water in america or europe? no of course not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574610) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:46 AM Author: low-t den so you pay massive taxes, still have to pay for private insurance, and wind up with worse care? can you fuckheads finally stfu with the "every other country" nonsense. it's been like 30 years of retarded shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575183) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:49 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage overall cost is much less and yes you can buy private insurance. I did that, I had govt provided healthcare and still bought private coverage. It was great. Still way cheaper than American and much better.
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Date: January 9th, 2026 11:18 AM Author: low-t den we're talking about America. no one gives a fuck and your third world street shitter ladyboy diddling bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575480) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 11:27 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage "hey i dont want to hear about what has worked for most of the world... i want to continue what 99% of the people consider a failed system!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575517) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:54 PM Author: Chartreuse hairless boltzmann resort Please tell me about this mythical world where people receive quality free healthcare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574240) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 2:00 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone frum hell "Yes" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572616) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 2:37 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage I also enjoy not having free options (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572751) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:13 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone frum hell Cool man well I really enjoy paying a bunch of extra taxes for services that I'll never use, in order to subsidize the unnecessary and destructive existence of hostile less than worthless undesirables (I don't) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573105) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:15 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage You already pay. Universal would lower private care costs. So the medical treatment you receive now would be lower, offsetting those taxes. But ya, I guess some people like to live in shitty societies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573109) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:20 PM Author: low-t den (guy who has never lived in America) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573135) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:22 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage except most my adult life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573150) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:25 PM Author: low-t den you are really stupid then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573168) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:22 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone frum hell You really are the stupidest person on this board lol even the pumo who copy paste spams lib Twitter links for attention isn't as dumb as you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573146) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:22 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage (guy who thinks paying $1800 after insurance for 5 stitches on the hand is NOT paying for the healthcare of others) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573153) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:26 PM Author: low-t den (guy who thinks paying 20% of your income in payroll taxes for 20 years to avoid this fate is not paying for the healthcare of others) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573174) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:46 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage weird. i understand that some taxes will go to pay for the extra govt spending. its almost like, i understand it and you are legit retarded and unable to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573249) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:03 PM Author: low-t den why would I be better off paying $50K in taxes instead of $7600 or whatever it is now into an HSA every year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573323) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:22 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage if you are a top 1%er, than its probably better off for you that society doesnt use taxes to help cover basic needs from a direct tax perspective.
even Musk cant use a billion dollars of healthcare a year, so he would never be better off financially.
but for the 99% of americans, yes having a basic need met by the society that they live in would be good for them and for society. |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:55 PM Author: low-t den how would those 99% of Americans having less money and fewer/more expensive options for healthcare make them better off? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573512) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 6:15 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage are you drunk? or just retarded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573568) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:57 PM Author: Chartreuse hairless boltzmann resort You must be fucking retarded.
How would they have "more expensive options for healthcare" if the govt became the Single Payer?
Why the Govt allow healthcare providers to charge whatever they want for medical treatment?
They don't do that shit with Medicare/Medicaid/Tricare, so why would they START doing that with Universal? |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:16 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage leave him alone. he didnt get healthcare as a child (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574617) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:49 AM Author: low-t den the single payer options would be dogshit and you'd have to pay out the ass to get private care, in addition to the 20% payroll taxes that would be needed to fund this shit.
you don't even need to look at medicare or other countries. I live in a state that has universal medicaid for children. you can either be part of that racket and literally wait 6-8 months to see a Dr or pay WLRK 3rd year rates to see ppl outside the system. |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:51 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage how many countries that have a single payer system have voted to remove it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575197) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:56 AM Author: low-t den once you put in a massive entitlement system it's near impossible to get rid of it you fuckhead. look at how libs are shrieking about covid era aca subsidies that were supposed to be temporary going away, or how demigod Obama couldn't pull back the Bush tax cuts or get us out of Iraq. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575217) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:57 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage so, the people prefer society providing healthcare rather than it only being in reach for the wealthy? weird (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575220) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:59 AM Author: low-t den everyone in America has access to healthcare and it is better quality than the third world shitholes you ran to bc your a pedo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575233) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:00 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage lol not at all. just look at my link in this thread. The hospital I go to is better than 99% of American hospitals. sorry bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575236) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 11:19 AM Author: low-t den no it isn't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575482) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:55 PM Author: Chartreuse hairless boltzmann resort CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574247) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:29 PM Author: Salmon thirsty church multi-billionaire you dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573185) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:47 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage solid argument. continue paying more than others in the world for worse healthcare! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573259) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:58 PM Author: low-t den brb going to thailand to get a knee replacement from some gook who makes less than the guy who mows my lawn at a hospital that doesn't have indoor plumbing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573524) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 6:19 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage i had 2 surgeries there. one of my docs did his residency at Johns Hopkins and another one did his at a top LA hospital. My hospital there is ranked top 100 in the world by US News
There are only ~25 hospitals in the US in the top 100. So going there I get a hospital better than 99% of US ones. hmmmm. |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:10 PM Author: Salmon thirsty church multi-billionaire you really dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573736) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:18 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage https://www.bumrungrad.com/en/blog-news/worlds-best-hospitals-2025-newsweek
sorry I like global hospitals that recruit from top american and other global med schools and residencys |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:41 PM Author: low-t den lol you let a third world doc who has never washed his hands in his life operate on you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574022) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:19 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage (guy who wants his doc from Middle Tennessee State instead of an asian doc at Hopkins) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574634) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:59 AM Author: low-t den i'm sure your totally real doc from hopkins passed up millions in potential income to go to thailand and make as much as a janitor here. he must be that committed to wanting to fuck 11 year olds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575227) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:01 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage well he's Thai and yes, many individuals are comfortable living upper middle class in their society rather than living in someone else's society while making more money but also higher COL.
its almost as if you have no idea how the world works |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 11:21 AM Author: low-t den it seems like his definition of QOL is having access to underage boys to buttfuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575491) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 2:35 PM Author: maniacal hyperactive yarmulke Your daughter has to be 4 or 5 by now. What free dindu thunderdome do you dump her in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572737) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 1:10 PM Author: Comical base 100%. The only people who like it are people who are used to standards so unbelievably low that somehow the free shit will be better (while still awful beyond all human comprehension.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572489) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 1:14 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone frum hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572499) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 3:49 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage like our armed forces? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573017) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:58 PM Author: Comical base Not sure I understand your analogy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574066) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:17 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage they get free healthcare. the same i suggest all americans get (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574619) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:58 PM Author: Comical base The thread is about universal childcare, which is a disaster.
Regarding the healthcare the military receives, I'm not sure that it's all that great given the amount of issues the VA has had. Seems like a total disaster overall.
Bigger issue (which I think you probably agree on) is that people think "free for everyone" will also mean "free and really good for everyone." But "free for everyone" just means "free" and quality gets pushed down because personal services don't scale without people and the quality of people decreases the more you bring into any system. |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 2:44 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage What a n00b so I'll be nice.
VA and active duty military gets 2 different healthcare systems. For active: TRICARE covers everything: primary care, specialists, hospital care, prescriptions. Its a full-service healthcare, similar to a national health system.
For VA, its a closed network, doesn't target all health conditions, and isn't national so where you live matters. |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:09 PM Author: Comical base What's the average age of active duty military? Might it help that they are forced to keep physically active, go to sleep at certain times, and eat in a cafeteria that is run by the military?
Not sure that the active duty military population is really comparable to the general population of the US (including all of its old people.) It is always going to be cheaper to provide healthcare for younger and healthier people (because they require way less of it.)
As per other poasts, I am not opposed to some sort of single payer program and think our current system is basically just a handout to finance capital. But I also think people need to come to grips with the healthcare system doing less in general and taking more responsibility for their own health. |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:30 PM Author: Salmon thirsty church multi-billionaire free stuff incentivizes worthlessness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573189) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:22 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage (guy who hates our armed forces) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573396) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:17 PM Author: Salmon thirsty church multi-billionaire you dumb. really dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575654) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 4:53 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage wow the kike makes ad hominem arguments! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49576905) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 6:32 PM Author: Salmon thirsty church multi-billionaire not an argument. an observation. you really dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49577119) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:57 PM Author: Chartreuse hairless boltzmann resort You don't know wtf you're talking bout. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574291) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:53 PM Author: Chartreuse hairless boltzmann resort As opposed to how much of our tax dollars go to giving corporations free shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574239) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 1:13 PM Author: cerebral mustard garrison voyeur If your mom is a retarded nigger you need to be removed from the home, and "childcare" is pointless. if your mom is not a retard she shoudl stay home and raise you anyway (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49572495) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:23 PM Author: Ebony Excitant Idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49573158) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:55 PM Author: Painfully honest parlour Spin rat fucks! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574246) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:59 PM Author: Insecure Flushed Electric Furnace Temple cause theyll have to pay for it some day? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49574311) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:36 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage english pls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575162) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:06 AM Author: Insecure Flushed Electric Furnace Temple THEY WILL GROW UP AND HAVE TO PAY TAXES TO FUND UNIVERSAL DAYCARE. THE SAME DAYCARE THAT MADE THEM SMARTERERER SO THEY COULD LEARN SKILLS GOOD AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO TALK AMERICAN. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575249) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:07 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage 99% of americans would be better off with universal care than the current system you retard. you cant speak and you dont even understand that unstated assumptions you are making for your argument to be true. pls killself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575253) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:12 AM Author: Insecure Flushed Electric Furnace Temple what the fuck are you talking about. there is now way in hell shotgunning money at bs somali daycare centers is good for anyone. the math doesnt even come close to adding up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575280) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:13 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage sorry for your mental disability (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575284) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:15 AM Author: sable concupiscible set tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575288) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:22 AM Author: Insecure Flushed Electric Furnace Temple you have to go back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575315) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 11:25 AM Author: sable concupiscible set tank Nah, you go back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575509) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 2:09 PM Author: Comical base With regards to healthcare, I don't disagree necessarily. But that's because the current healthcare system in America is effectively a system to have money flow through a series of PE-backed companies that add little-to-no value (or extract value at the cost of the consumer) and megacorps that centralize everything to become a sort of oligopoly version of single payer healthcare (just look at CVS). We basically have a frankenstein system whose sole purpose is to let certain people skim off of transactions.
Given how much high earners need to spend on health insurance, particularly if they don't work at a large corporation, it is absolutely worse than a normal single payer program. Especially if you have a family (or are starting one.)
The issue more broadly in America and in places with single payer healthcare is that people's expectations of the healthcare system are way too high. Far too many people abdicate personal responsibility and good habits that would keep them out of the system. Instead, they look to the healthcare system to keep them healthy regardless of their own choices.
And if you look at places like the UK, this is increasingly a problem. Their National Health Service is in dire straits on account of this. Especially as the quality of their demographics shifts dramatically. |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 2:50 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage A national health plan should make 90% of things cheap and easy to get.
If you get cancer and its state 3 or 4? Well that's what private pay or insurance is for. But you broke a bone? Here's an x-ray and cast for $10.
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Date: January 11th, 2026 12:24 PM Author: Comical base Yes. And we could also have a 90% white country and basically any system would work. The demographics enable some pretty terrible shit under the guise of “improving health outcomes” and so on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49580810) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:34 AM Author: sable concupiscible set tank Almost nobody in NYC can actually afford child care. It’s 3k per kid in NYC, which is about the price of a studio apartment in Brooklyn.
Really shocked to see poor MAGA people coming out against this in NY. I’ve never seen someone irl say they didn’t like 3k. It’s just a credit to existing daycares to cover the cost.
Idk at what salary can you even afford to have two kids in NYC without this? |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:36 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage MAGA fags are legit retarded. They really wanted the Epstein files and to fight against pedos, until they learned Trump actually didnt want to fight the pedos so now they are OK with it all being covered up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575161) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:22 AM Author: Insecure Flushed Electric Furnace Temple nobody gives a rats ass about people in new york trying to raise kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575316) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:53 AM Author: sable concupiscible set tank Well that’s what everyone is commenting on right now bc it’s happening. They seem to care quite a bit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575398) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:21 PM Author: Insecure Flushed Electric Furnace Temple omg i came from somalia to raise kids in the most expensive city in the us and it costs so much money a lamb koftka and a pastrami sandwich with an egg roll and a taco cost me 80 dollars yesterday (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575667) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 1:31 PM Author: sable concupiscible set tank In NYC you need Universal Childcare at 200-250k. Went to an open house for a local day care and there were a decent amount of attorneys there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49576098) |
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Date: January 11th, 2026 3:16 PM Author: Insecure Flushed Electric Furnace Temple no they need to leave nyc lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49581203) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:17 PM Author: Salmon thirsty church multi-billionaire then move out or don't move there. libs have shit for brains |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 3:36 PM Author: sable concupiscible set tank Or why not just have universal 3k. It’s basically the only program that actually helps the middle class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49576703) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 4:05 PM Author: Salmon thirsty church multi-billionaire what a pathetic bitch you are, slobbering for more nanny state your children are not the government's problem they are yours |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 5:26 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage shut up kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49576959) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:00 AM Author: sticky opaque parlor famous landscape painting I don't understand this article. Can someone summarize it for me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575234) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:13 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage i did already (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575285) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:20 AM Author: sticky opaque parlor famous landscape painting I don't believe you. Do it again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575307) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:22 AM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2#49572305 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49575313) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 1:01 PM Author: Comical base Thinking more about this, the entire premise is basically evil when you consider *why* rags like The Economist push for it. It's not that they necessarily want the best outcomes for children, rather they simply want more people in the workforce full-time without breaks to "grow" GDP. Even if growing GDP just means more transactions and less actual value created through value-added production.
Seeing nominal GDP grow is more important to these "people" than healthy families because they are completely fucking insane.
Even if, somehow, universal childcare could be rolled out where every kid has one-on-one attention at all times, it will never equate to being at home with a loving mother. |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 2:45 PM Author: Bistre Kitty Cat Menage The answer is lower housing and healthcare costs to allow moms to be moms. lol @ sending your kids to daycare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49576478) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 3:45 PM Author: Amber Range Puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2Elisa#49576732) |