https://x.com/imperiumfirst/status/2001190854094926140?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516267)

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517607)

this take always makes the heckin wholesome wifeguy beta conservative dads mad as fuck but it's cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516277)

Ari Schmekelberg: "Oy vey, goys, don't you understand that breeding is all that matters in shaping the world? Who remembers that stupid old childless 'Adolf Hitler' chud in 2025... but Darnell Jackson, the strapping young American lad who has 50 kids with 50 different women, now there's a man who is really changed the world in important ways!"

Ljl brother (((you people))) are so dun here it's crazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517194)

But ya, the wife cooks and takes care of the house 90% of the time. But spending time with your kids as a dad is 100% awesome. Fuck thinking men should spend their time in a factory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516290)

He is right, solve the JQ, but he's wrong to blame dads to trying to raise their family given the jewish overlords

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516316)

Part of this is necessitated by the internet being a nightmare for parents to deal with, but a nontrivial fraction of it is radically altered societal attitudes towards how parents, and especially fathers, are expected to interact with children. And this shift is much more noticable in America than e.g. Europe outside the UK, although Europoors in general have basically stopped reproducing so the American attitude is coming to dominate how Westerners raise kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516335)

you: dads are more involved!

hth faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516376)

so much of this is just nostalgic larping. modern dads should be grateful they can spend more time with their kids, which their forefathers surely wished they could have in most cases. but you're right that society has gone too far in the other direction. theres just more options than absentee business dad and helicopter mom-dad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516400)

when he's right he's Right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516382)

it's like reading the shitlib comments section of that NYT douthat article posted in the other thread today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516529)

the most traditional relationship between a father and son is the father guiding the son most of the day as soon he becomes able to handle tasks. he even mentions a farmstead; does he think farmers had a bunch of kids and all the boys stayed with mom all day? no, they had a bunch of kids so they could *HELP* tend the farm. even in industry businesses always used to be named shit like "miller and sons" because the boys would come work and learn the craft as soon as they were able to. fathers would be spending *WAY MORE* time with their kids, and actually teaching them *HOW* to be men!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516823)

nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517258)

Everything Nick says here is correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516437)

He’s a traditional catholic who believes the only licit sex is heterosexual sex between a married man and woman.

But he also looks down on men who respect their wives and children using the term “wife guy” and calling them gay.

He just really hates women so his view of a family is with a woman being similar to a child in the home and the man being a bit of a dictator. So any guy who sees his wife as anything close to an equal or who relishes spending time doing child-rearing is gay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49516717)

fuentes has many faults but he is not a nihilist. far from it

this topic is actually an important one with real depth to it but nobody here even watched the video and they're just projecting their own various biases and neuroses on it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517152)

i'm two minutes into this and he's whining like a bitch that his shitty suburban shops have gone out of business and hispanics live there. waaaah, i'm homeless. what has he done to build a home? a stable family? an organization that isn't a bunch of retarded incel fags jerking each others clitdicks?

how do you watch him and ever agree with him?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517248)

the clip you just poasted is nick lamenting the loss some 1950s america which he never experienced and is already gone. that's why this ideology leads to nihilism: he's advocating for turning back the clock 75 years. people that buy that are going to be disappointed and succumb to nihilistic despair.

this isn't some shitlib blackpill about how we shouldn't preserve and reclaim american culture. we should! but we have millions of born and bred non-white american citizens. born to american citizens who immigrated legally or were born her themselves. you're high on tutu if you think we're going to kick out american citizens based on their race. and if we did, it would require such violence and upheaval that few people here would every experience the fuentes fantasy world.

it's a primrose path to despair.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517592)

for the sake of argument, let's say someday you grew disenchanted with nick as well. will you look for another man to promise you the world or do you think you'll create the best one you can for yourself and stop looking for saviors?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517707)

yes, i already know you are very hopeful and excited. did you respond to reiterate that or do you wanna take a stab at my Q?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517729)

he's advocating for the opposite of nihilism here. what *you* are describing is "nihilism:" trying to construct something out of nothing. looking at hundreds of millions of deracinated mystery meat and saying, "ok, we gotta make the best with what we've got!" *that* is the definition of nihilism

his point is that we have to *reject* this kind of nihilism, and instead admit to ourselves that we are blood and soil creatures and we can't ever pretend like we're not. he's not advocating for turning back the clock. he's advocating for us to recognize that 'ought' is intertwined with 'is.' the opposite of nihilism

maybe you should watch the whole clip to make sure you get what he's saying. it's a very good clip. and i say this as someone who is very critical of fuentes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517635)

i don't think your description is very accurate as far as the philosophy of nihilism, but that's beside the point because i think what OP meant by nihilism as a shorthand for despair, hopelessness, etc. what i'm saying is that selling people on an unachievable fantasy will *ultimately lead to* despair when it doesn't come to fruition.

i see what you mean about what he said about how we're defined by community, traditions, etc. is hopeful. but that doesn't impact my argument that people are going to be disappointed when his vision of the future doesn't happen. doomsday cults have lots of flowery and hopeful rhetoric but they're still disappointed when the prophesy isn't fulfilled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517691)

(i mean for you to take offense to this)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517836)

nihilism has been the result of severing 'ought' from 'is.' what fuentes is asserting here is that there *is* inherent meaning in the world: our human way of life and identity and everything that goes into it. it's not arbitrary, it's not nihilistic, it's not constructed, it's something that 'is'

and fwiw, having children and continuing our way of life and identity is part of this. which he does *not* speak out against in the clip of the OP of this thread. he is speaking out specifically against making one's self a domesticated provider at the expense of the rest of one's self as a man. but nobody in this thread actually watched the clip so they all think he is saying that having children and being a father is bad period, which is obviously silly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517791)

and i said i understand what you meant about that being not nihilistic. what i'm saying is despite all that if you sell people on some bright utopian future that doesn't come true, that's likely to lead to disappointment and despair.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517813)

Have also met some friends while coaching which are a needed difference from lawyer/finance business acquaintances and my old high school alcoholic friends who still live nearby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517273)

But don't forget to go to work and provide. You sound poor honestly. Probably a back bencher at whatever you do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517276)

"Traditional living" has turned out to be attached to the hip to a series of truly sinister and corrupt fine print social contracts and the same people promoting it are the ones profiting off of this horrid stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49517849)

IMO NF is probably obsessed with you and you live rent-free in his head. You're a pretty important man, honestly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811317&forum_id=2Elisa#49518873)