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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: well-lubricated dull station macaca



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:58 AM
Author: contagious garrison jewess



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:06 AM
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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: wonderful milk



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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre

“If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.”

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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:27 AM
Author: wonderful milk

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Date: April 23rd, 2019 7:38 AM
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Date: January 13th, 2020 6:02 AM
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Date: April 23rd, 2019 7:38 AM
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Date: January 12th, 2020 6:33 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre

“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears.”

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Date: November 23rd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: wonderful milk



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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre

“Here is a rule to remember in future, when anything tempts you to feel bitter: not "This is misfortune," but "To bear this worthily is good fortune.”

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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: well-lubricated dull station macaca



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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: contagious garrison jewess



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Date: January 12th, 2020 6:33 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre



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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre

“Do not be ashamed of help. Like a soldier storming a wall, you have a mission to accomplish. And if you've been wounded and you need a comrade to pull you up? So what?"

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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: well-lubricated dull station macaca

(Marcus putting on a sleeve)

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Date: December 22nd, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: transparent comical masturbator range



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Date: December 14th, 2019 4:20 PM
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Date: January 12th, 2020 6:33 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:27 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre

"Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man"

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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:42 AM
Author: contagious garrison jewess

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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:43 AM
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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:11 AM
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Date: November 12th, 2018 6:51 AM
Author: well-lubricated dull station macaca



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Date: November 23rd, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: Sinister resort hominid



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Date: November 23rd, 2018 12:00 PM
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Date: November 27th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Magical Hissy Fit Chapel



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Date: December 22nd, 2018 9:54 AM
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Date: January 12th, 2020 10:35 PM
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Date: January 13th, 2020 6:02 AM
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Date: April 28th, 2020 10:17 AM
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Date: July 2nd, 2020 4:53 PM
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Date: November 25th, 2022 8:02 AM
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Date: April 6th, 2023 7:44 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre

"Receive without pride, let go without attachment."

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Date: December 14th, 2019 4:20 PM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre



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Date: January 12th, 2020 10:50 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: Demanding odious patrolman theater stage

doesn't JCM DJ there?

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Date: November 11th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre



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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre



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Date: November 12th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: Sinister resort hominid



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Date: November 12th, 2018 5:51 AM
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Date: November 12th, 2018 9:14 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre



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Date: November 12th, 2018 9:14 AM
Author: sepia french chef



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Date: November 23rd, 2018 9:20 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre



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Date: November 23rd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Appetizing psychic



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Date: November 23rd, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: Big Hairy Legs



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Date: November 23rd, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: well-lubricated dull station macaca

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Date: November 23rd, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: Cowardly stirring kitchen



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Date: November 27th, 2018 8:47 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre

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Date: November 27th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Magical Hissy Fit Chapel



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Date: December 22nd, 2018 8:46 AM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre



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Date: December 22nd, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: contagious garrison jewess



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Author: Nighttime roommate



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Date: April 23rd, 2019 7:37 AM
Author: contagious garrison jewess



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Author: Grizzly trump supporter



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Author: White haunting school telephone



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Author: contagious garrison jewess



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Date: December 14th, 2019 4:16 PM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre



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Author: contagious garrison jewess



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Date: January 12th, 2020 6:29 PM
Author: Ruddy voyeur house

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Date: January 12th, 2020 6:29 PM
Author: Appetizing psychic



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Date: January 12th, 2020 8:51 PM
Author: slippery yarmulke

Receive without conceit, release without struggle. Marcus Aurelius

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Date: January 12th, 2020 10:33 PM
Author: wonderful milk

So that's how Drake has so seemlessly translated to sexualized Lot Lizard

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Date: January 12th, 2020 8:52 PM
Author: slippery yarmulke

The first step: Don’t be anxious. Nature controls it all.

The second step: Concentrate on what you have to do. Fix your eyes on it. Remind yourself that your task is to be a good human being; remind yourself what nature demands of people. Then do it, without hesitation, and speak the truth as you see it. But with kindness. With humility. Without hypocrisy.

Be tolerant with others and strict with yourself.

He who follows reason in all things is both tranquil and active at the same time, and also cheerful and collected.

Nothing natural is evil.

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Author: chrome irradiated set



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Date: April 28th, 2020 10:14 AM
Author: wonderful milk

"Nothing natural is evil" whispered Halford, as led a young Doobs into his panel van

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Date: June 20th, 2020 10:18 PM
Author: Jade histrionic stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#40463361)



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Date: December 21st, 2021 2:53 PM
Author: Laughsome clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#43650954)



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Date: December 23rd, 2021 9:22 AM
Author: rough-skinned yapping puppy point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#43661946)



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Date: December 23rd, 2021 9:33 AM
Author: Laughsome clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#43662006)



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Date: December 28th, 2021 8:30 AM
Author: Shaky passionate affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#43687941)



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Date: September 2nd, 2022 1:16 PM
Author: contagious garrison jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#45110065)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 2:40 PM
Author: Chartreuse Pocket Flask Theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#45540153)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:17 AM
Author: fluffy brilliant library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#45542450)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:21 AM
Author: aggressive church half-breed

Whose wife?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#45542459)



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Date: January 25th, 2023 10:59 PM
Author: Blathering famous landscape painting

A man must stand erect, not be kept erect by others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#45842929)



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Date: January 25th, 2023 11:03 PM
Author: marvelous walnut temple

Enjoying the intellectual delights proffered by Scipio Africanus

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Date: January 25th, 2023 11:06 PM
Author: marvelous walnut temple

"Scipio" is Latin for a rod or walking stick. So "Scipio Africanus" can be translated as "African rod" as well as being the name of a famous Roman general

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#45842951)



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Date: January 25th, 2023 11:25 PM
Author: Blathering famous landscape painting

The sexual embrace can only be compared with music and with prayer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#45843043)



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Date: September 29th, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: Rabbi Nahasapeemapetilon (✅🍑)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009749&forum_id=2Elisa#49311945)