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Sub Saharan Africans are a different species (Reuters)

https://reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2072X9
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ran here.
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most morons thinks whites are "descended" from sub...
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go on
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read David Reich's last book
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Who We Are and How We Got Here?
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yeah
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Reich was mentored by the population geneticist Luca Cavalli...
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Out of Africa has been debunked
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what about Back to Africa?
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has it? what is the answer if not out of africa?
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non subsaharan homo sapiens evolved independently after leav...
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wouldnt this still be "out of africa?"
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multi regional hypotheses is the cr theory
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This. africa just has the oldest found bones. the weather is...
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Date: August 21st, 2020 12:55 AM
Author: Startling sticky dysfunction

https://reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2072X9

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788582)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 2:45 PM
Author: Greedy meetinghouse

Science’s version of news at 11:00. What’s new?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40803383)



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Date: February 22nd, 2021 7:20 PM
Author: turquoise institution patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#41992038)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 12:56 AM
Author: cruel-hearted primrose public bath athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788585)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 9:56 AM
Author: Cheese-eating carnelian gay wizard

Different from

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40789348)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 10:25 AM
Author: razzle property foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40789464)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 12:57 AM
Author: Swollen pistol

Not surprised. Blacks are feral, savage, low IQ, and not as highly evolved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788588)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:03 AM
Author: Unholy chad filthpig

spaceporn vindicated!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788614)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:04 AM
Author: Sable goyim

I fucking DO NOT love science!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788617)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:07 AM
Author: Exciting Pontificating Temple Toaster



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:08 AM
Author: Lilac Titillating Famous Landscape Painting



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:33 AM
Author: comical school cafeteria azn



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Date: August 21st, 2020 9:56 AM
Author: Startling sticky dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40789344)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 9:57 AM
Author: Harsh cracking gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40789356)



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Date: February 26th, 2026 4:28 PM
Author: Frutiger Aero



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:11 AM
Author: 180 dilemma

"It is unclear if West Africans derived any genetic benefits from this long-ago gene flow."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788643)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:11 AM
Author: Exciting Pontificating Temple Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788645)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:12 AM
Author: Exciting Pontificating Temple Toaster

After claiming there is disadvantage to neanderthal (non-black)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788647)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 9:57 AM
Author: Harsh cracking gaming laptop

ran here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40789355)



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Date: July 29th, 2023 11:07 PM
Author: chartreuse preventive strike dragon



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:19 AM
Author: cruel-hearted primrose public bath athletic conference

most morons thinks whites are "descended" from subsaharan blacks because we all came from africa (allegedly) and blacks are who live there now

however, these two groups diverged like 70,000 years ago when neither looked like what they do today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788671)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:23 AM
Author: irradiated house-broken hell

go on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788684)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:24 AM
Author: cruel-hearted primrose public bath athletic conference

read David Reich's last book

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788686)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 2:47 PM
Author: mind-boggling nighttime theatre pocket flask

Who We Are and How We Got Here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40803392)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 3:02 PM
Author: cruel-hearted primrose public bath athletic conference

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40803458)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 12:48 PM
Author: Exhilarant base stain

Reich was mentored by the population geneticist Luca Cavalli-Sforza, who from 1960 pioneered the attempt to match the study of human prehistory by archaeology and linguistics, using the limited genetic data available at that time.[4]

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Luca Cavalli-Sforza was a prolific poaster here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#47507266)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:24 AM
Author: cerebral blood rage theater

Out of Africa has been debunked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788688)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:25 AM
Author: appetizing navy newt

what about Back to Africa?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788692)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:30 AM
Author: Exciting Pontificating Temple Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788706)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 10:33 AM
Author: Black slap-happy lodge



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Date: August 24th, 2020 3:11 PM
Author: lascivious karate area



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Date: August 24th, 2020 4:29 PM
Author: Aquamarine bawdyhouse tattoo



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Date: July 29th, 2023 10:49 PM
Author: Internet-worthy multi-colored market cuck



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Date: March 19th, 2024 12:40 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal beady-eyed rigor piazza

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#47507245)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 3:50 PM
Author: Curious Chrome Lay

has it? what is the answer if not out of africa?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40803631)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 3:57 PM
Author: cruel-hearted primrose public bath athletic conference

non subsaharan homo sapiens evolved independently after leaving africa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40803661)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 4:52 PM
Author: Curious Chrome Lay

wouldnt this still be "out of africa?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40803902)



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Date: July 29th, 2023 10:56 PM
Author: Curious Chrome Lay

multi regional hypotheses is the cr theory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#46606474)



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Date: February 26th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: barnabyjones

This. africa just has the oldest found bones. the weather is the reason. ancient anything doesnt last long in cold climates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#49697361)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 1:32 AM
Author: comical school cafeteria azn

Also diverged 1m years ago to then reintegrate the Neanderthal line

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40788714)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 10:51 AM
Author: lascivious karate area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40789568)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 10:42 AM
Author: big mood

Racist Nazi science

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40789533)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 10:50 AM
Author: sooty stead prole

this is literally igbo propaganda

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40789565)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 10:57 AM
Author: appetizing navy newt



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Date: August 21st, 2020 12:07 PM
Author: Exciting Pontificating Temple Toaster



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Date: August 21st, 2020 10:58 AM
Author: Frozen heady national international law enforcement agency

"It is unclear if West Africans derived any genetic benefits from this long-ago gene flow."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40789603)



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Date: August 21st, 2020 12:08 PM
Author: Exciting Pontificating Temple Toaster



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Date: August 24th, 2020 2:39 PM
Author: Startling sticky dysfunction



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Date: August 24th, 2020 2:45 PM
Author: cerebral blood rage theater



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Date: August 24th, 2020 2:48 PM
Author: Lilac Titillating Famous Landscape Painting



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Date: August 24th, 2020 2:50 PM
Author: hairless cumskin

ran here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40803404)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 3:11 PM
Author: lascivious karate area



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Date: August 24th, 2020 3:55 PM
Author: Curious Chrome Lay

is it possible to define africans as a different specis now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40803649)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 7:09 PM
Author: Exciting Pontificating Temple Toaster

Humans are so complicated that we can’t define them at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#40804506)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 12:42 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal beady-eyed rigor piazza

The definition of a species is that interbreeding between the two produces fertile offspring. IME the second part of that is 50/50.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#47507253)



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Date: February 19th, 2021 10:56 PM
Author: charismatic light nursing home sandwich



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Date: February 22nd, 2021 7:02 PM
Author: Startling sticky dysfunction



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Date: April 5th, 2023 12:20 AM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter



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Date: April 7th, 2023 3:12 AM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter



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Date: May 25th, 2023 8:23 PM
Author: charismatic light nursing home sandwich



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Date: May 26th, 2023 2:02 AM
Author: Startling sticky dysfunction



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Date: May 26th, 2023 2:16 AM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter

Afrikaners and Rhodesians did the right thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#46356969)



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Date: May 26th, 2023 2:58 AM
Author: Cerise mad-dog skullcap

get their asses kicked?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#46357011)



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Date: May 30th, 2023 10:20 PM
Author: Startling sticky dysfunction



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Date: July 23rd, 2023 12:34 AM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter



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Date: July 29th, 2023 10:47 PM
Author: Startling sticky dysfunction



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Date: July 29th, 2023 10:50 PM
Author: Internet-worthy multi-colored market cuck

"the latest evidence of humankind’s complicated genetic ancestry"

Reuters tacitly admitting HBD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#46606459)



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Date: July 30th, 2023 4:32 PM
Author: Startling sticky dysfunction



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Date: February 23rd, 2024 3:44 PM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter



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Date: March 17th, 2024 6:06 AM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:43 AM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter

It’s homo naledi. Africans are the result of cross breeding between homo sapiens and homo naledi. They are literally part monkey.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#47507094)



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Date: May 28th, 2024 10:09 AM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:02 PM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:07 PM
Author: Vengeful Burgundy Hospital Giraffe

um, pretty sure that 'ghost' population is gorillas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4607675&forum_id=2Elisa#47764180)



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Date: August 6th, 2024 8:47 PM
Author: Startling sticky dysfunction



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Date: September 14th, 2024 12:34 PM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter



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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:18 PM
Author: Startling sticky dysfunction



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Date: October 1st, 2024 12:45 AM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 11:58 AM
Author: excitant jet-lagged plaza tank



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Date: June 7th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Clear faggot firefighter



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Date: February 26th, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: fatty nigger (βœ…πŸ‘)



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Date: February 26th, 2026 3:44 PM
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Date: February 26th, 2026 4:27 PM
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