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Finished Bukowski's Ham on Rye (1982)
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Date: June 17th, 2025 6:21 AM Author: marvelous mad cow disease I finished Bukowski’s Ham on Rye (1982), which is apparently his most famous novel along with his first, Post Office. It is a semi-autobiographical novel about his youth - born in Germany, raised in Los Angeles, always a poor outsider, wisecracking and fast talking, his loves were alcohol and writing. He developed terrible acne as a teenager which made his outsider status worse but even that was something he accepted and suffered through.
The book is lovely, an easy and flowing read. Bukowski discusses the difficulties of life and he does it in a wry, direct, honest and disarming style. One can’t help but love the guy - he’s got such a defined voice.
He states that he’s neither a misanthrope nor a misogynist in the book, and I think at least the second part is true for him - for the first, he uses alcohol to dull the pain of existence. However, Bukowski, for all his self-loathing and rawness, seemed to channel his suffering into a grudging acceptance of the human animal - ugly, dirty, and laughable, yes, but not necessarily evil. He’s disillusioned, yes, but rarely metaphysically embittered. The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical.
I’ve read all of Bukowkski’s poetry online (https://www.best-poems.net/charles_bukowski/index.html) and will continue to read more of his works. |
Date: June 17th, 2025 7:17 AM Author: Cobalt House Nobody cares. Bukowski sucks and you’re a retarded faggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023358) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:20 AM Author: vivacious meetinghouse doctorate This is exactly what Bukowski would say. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023370) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM Author: marvelous mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023387) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:33 AM Author: maniacal trailer park tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023390) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:37 AM Author: bipolar grizzly volcanic crater preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023451) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:38 AM Author: Glassy degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023454) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:39 AM Author: Haunting Piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023456) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM Author: Violent church knife This is just what we needed the boring thoughts of an idiotic faggot. Kill yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023361) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM Author: cyan casino coldplay fan whoa crr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023362) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:19 AM Author: Cobalt House MPA is highly supportive of this because he is low iq and jewish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023364) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:26 AM Author: Hideous Organic Girlfriend Mental Disorder The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023382) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM Author: marvelous mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023386) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:34 AM Author: maniacal trailer park tank id like some elaboration here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023391) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:41 AM Author: marvelous mad cow disease Mother was both nurturing but also extremely passive aggressive and never respected my emotional red lines, which felt on a subconscious level, to a young child, like deep betrayal and which has warped my relationship with all women thereafter.
My philosophical pessimism and gnosticism is well documented here. |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:40 AM Author: Cobalt House “I’m a kike!”
How groundbreaking. You might be the next bukowski. |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:18 AM Author: floppy rehab That’s a long time to eat a sandwich. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023700) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 11:14 AM Author: chartreuse haunted graveyard french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49023917) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 4:39 PM Author: marvelous mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2Elisa#49025197) |