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Couldn't you fire "dummy missiles" alongside real ones to overwhelm defenses?

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in the...
flushed bearded halford
  06/18/25
Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the co...
slap-happy theater boistinker
  06/18/25
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zippy well-lubricated meetinghouse nibblets
  06/18/25
Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet...
flushed bearded halford
  06/18/25
What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does...
Underhanded copper milk address
  06/18/25
They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket...
frisky ape
  06/18/25
You can answer the question now
Underhanded copper milk address
  06/18/25
So this is actually an idea which people have used. The ide...
slap-happy theater boistinker
  06/18/25
Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.
Underhanded copper milk address
  06/18/25
What if they use lawnmower drones?
Underhanded copper milk address
  06/18/25
Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then sh...
silver razzmatazz boltzmann pozpig
  06/18/25
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flushed bearded halford
  06/18/25
Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?
chestnut seedy roommate dilemma
  06/18/25
Yes
slap-happy theater boistinker
  06/19/25
just trebuchet hot boulders
pontificating trailer park party of the first part
  06/18/25
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violent legal warrant menage
  06/18/25
(Bobby Birdshit)
up-to-no-good 180 plaza
  06/18/25
Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release ...
Insanely creepy dysfunction school cafeteria
  06/18/25
No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and...
Underhanded copper milk address
  06/18/25
Man think disabled people have it hard enough
flushed bearded halford
  06/18/25
This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.
carmine gunner
  06/19/25


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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:49 PM
Author: flushed bearded halford

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in them along with some that do, AA doesn't know the difference. Am I some insanely smart war strategist or what? Why doesn't Iran do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029366)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: slap-happy theater boistinker

Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the cost of the rocket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029376)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: zippy well-lubricated meetinghouse nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029382)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: flushed bearded halford

Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029414)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: Underhanded copper milk address

What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does it still require engineering you can barely fathom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029418)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: frisky ape

They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket. You could just fill the explosives chamber with rocks or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029430)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: Underhanded copper milk address

You can answer the question now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029456)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: slap-happy theater boistinker

So this is actually an idea which people have used. The idea is to overwhelm the defenses by sending a lot of dumber, low cost munitions, but sending a dummy makes no sense economically. At some point there are not enough anti-missile weapons to stop them all. This is why drones can be effective; send thousands to the same place you can’t shoot them all down (in theory — shoot drones is pretty easy with a gun based defense, but there are range issues).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029477)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:49 PM
Author: Underhanded copper milk address

Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030279)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Underhanded copper milk address

What if they use lawnmower drones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029458)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: silver razzmatazz boltzmann pozpig

Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then shoot them out of the real one once it gets close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029498)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: flushed bearded halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029596)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: chestnut seedy roommate dilemma

Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030056)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: slap-happy theater boistinker

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49031438)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: pontificating trailer park party of the first part

just trebuchet hot boulders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030054)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: violent legal warrant menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030068)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: up-to-no-good 180 plaza

(Bobby Birdshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49029422)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: Insanely creepy dysfunction school cafeteria

Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release as they fly over high ADA regions. Supposedly some of the early Russian missile strikes in 2022 included completely inert iskander missiles whose explosive payloads were substituted entirely by decoys. This allowed them to fire volleys and have significantly more decoys to overwhelm air defenses, exactly as you suggested.

https://en.topcor.ru/24483-nyt-uznal-o-zapuskaemyh-rossiej-lozhnyh-celjah-vmeste-s-raketami-iskander-m.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030052)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: Underhanded copper milk address

No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and 48 hours later poasters are saying it costs nothing to add a warhead. Guess Judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030286)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: flushed bearded halford

Man think disabled people have it hard enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49030291)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: carmine gunner

This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2Elisa#49031415)