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Epstein question. Do we think he killed himself?

Options: 1. He is so loyal to his handlers that he killed...
Misanthropic offensive antidepressant drug volcanic crater
  07/16/25
go back to MPC
Laughsome clear death wish knife
  07/16/25
What about he was facing life in prison, endless civil suits...
beta honey-headed coldplay fan
  07/16/25
I don't have any particular 'theory of the case' but I imagi...
ruby senate
  07/16/25
Cthulu?
topaz address tank
  07/16/25
i am beginning to sense that Epstein being murdered is the R...
very tactful windowlicker nibblets
  07/16/25
One of those situations where circumstantial evidence is ove...
Charismatic Corn Cake Hall
  07/16/25
Can you ask grok what he thinks?
pearl thirsty puppy
  07/16/25
3. He never died.
Racy Shaky Hospital Round Eye
  07/16/25
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azure boiling water mediation
  07/16/25
...
rambunctious heady liquid oxygen private investor
  07/16/25
it’s insane to believe that this man was running perha...
azure boiling water mediation
  07/16/25
If he was a loyal intelligence set, maybe he did kill himsel...
Misanthropic offensive antidepressant drug volcanic crater
  07/16/25
agreed, but this would mean he wasn’t “running&r...
azure boiling water mediation
  07/16/25
He killed himself out of shame upon realizing that ghislaine...
Ruddy cumskin
  07/16/25
...
ruby senate
  07/16/25
If you think he didn’t kill himself then you need to e...
beta honey-headed coldplay fan
  07/16/25
That part of the story is almost never brought up. Two week...
violent locus
  07/16/25
do you think it would be harder to stage a suicide or enter ...
azure boiling water mediation
  07/16/25
This guy tried to kill him, that’s where the bruises c...
fragrant smoky range
  07/16/25
Yes. Trump would never lie
Boyish Giraffe
  07/16/25
Sometimes the government is obligated to lie or keep secrets...
Misanthropic offensive antidepressant drug volcanic crater
  07/16/25
esp about raping American kids. We wouldnt want the truth to...
Boyish Giraffe
  07/16/25
These weren't kids or pedophile stuff. These girls were 16+.
Misanthropic offensive antidepressant drug volcanic crater
  07/16/25
So if no crime, why cover up? You can fuck 16-17 abroad.
Boyish Giraffe
  07/16/25
cuz government are our betters and we must kiss the ring and...
Histrionic insane roast beef
  07/16/25
(thomas jefferson)
Histrionic insane roast beef
  07/16/25
he was clearly killed
thriller hideous useless brakes
  07/16/25
Hell to the NO
Lavender Dragon Ratface
  07/16/25
Define "killed." I think the most likely explanati...
Startling dog poop
  07/16/25
What is this "we" bullshit? This isn't some kind o...
Concupiscible stage
  07/16/25
Epstein was only the second successful “suicide”...
fragrant smoky range
  07/16/25
Isn't it interesting that they waited until daytime, then wh...
Cowardly chad whorehouse
  07/16/25
necessary state hit, he knew too many judges and politicians...
Cerise insanely creepy pozpig
  07/16/25
imo he is too rich and jewish to be killed and to kill himse...
Razzmatazz slate macaca
  07/16/25
otoh, people accused of sex crimes involving minors or young...
maroon alcoholic temple
  07/16/25


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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: Misanthropic offensive antidepressant drug volcanic crater

Options:

1. He is so loyal to his handlers that he killed himself in jail.

2. He was killed.

3. He didn't die when he was reported to die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105489)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: Laughsome clear death wish knife

go back to MPC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105517)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: beta honey-headed coldplay fan

What about he was facing life in prison, endless civil suits, and a stained very-public reputation, so he killed himself to avoid those consequences?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105827)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: ruby senate

I don't have any particular 'theory of the case' but I imagine the suicide was allowed to happen (vs someone slipping in and assassinating him)

Whether that was from his own depression, his loyalty to someone else, or some sort of occult or technological or psychological control, I have no idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105496)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:25 PM
Author: topaz address tank

Cthulu?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105771)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:39 AM
Author: very tactful windowlicker nibblets

i am beginning to sense that Epstein being murdered is the Reddit Opinion, so I am now on team Epstein Killed Himself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105500)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: Charismatic Corn Cake Hall

One of those situations where circumstantial evidence is overwhelmingly against, but because there is no direct evidence proponents of the suicide claim can just stigmatize doubters as insane, and constantly demand direct evidence

Circumstantial evidence:

- Very hard to physically kill self in suicide prevention cells in fed detention. Clothes and sheets are rip-away. Beds are short.

- This was most famous inmate in history of fed custody, whose well-being would be primary concern of entire administration

- Credible testimony from lawyer that JE was in good spirits

- Objective evidence that JE was actively preparing for trial

- Multiple layers of failsafes: Multiple cameras, multiple guards. Each and every layer happened to fail simultaneously

- Less credible testimonial evidence of unusual activity at jail. Transport van arriving on weekend, not typical. Van not being signed in, not typical, etc.

Contextualize all of the above with the general suspicion, supported by the Palm Beach's DA on the record testimony ("he's with intelligence"), that JE was involved in secret state activities which means powerful forces would WANT him dead.

So you have motive, and a ton of circumstantial evidence.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105503)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: pearl thirsty puppy

Can you ask grok what he thinks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105762)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: Racy Shaky Hospital Round Eye

3. He never died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105579)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: azure boiling water mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105580)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: rambunctious heady liquid oxygen private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105830)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: azure boiling water mediation

it’s insane to believe that this man was running perhaps the largest blackmail scheme in human history involving billionaires and heads of state and his only recourse once arrested via typical channels was to kill himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105582)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: Misanthropic offensive antidepressant drug volcanic crater

If he was a loyal intelligence set, maybe he did kill himself. I don't know but it is possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105586)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: azure boiling water mediation

agreed, but this would mean he wasn’t “running” the operation, which should imply new and deeper questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105592)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: Ruddy cumskin

He killed himself out of shame upon realizing that ghislaine maxwell is a reddit moderator

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105583)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: ruby senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105588)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: beta honey-headed coldplay fan

If you think he didn’t kill himself then you need to explain his failed suicide attempt 2 weeks before he died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105585)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: violent locus

That part of the story is almost never brought up. Two weeks before he allegedly kills himself he’s found in his cell with bruises around his neck. They put him on suicide watch, per protocols, which requires heightened surveillance. Two weeks later he’s dead by suicide. In the interim he’d been working with his lawyers in preparation for his bail hearing (I think) and felt optimistic that he would be released because of the broad agreement that was in place as part of his prior conviction. But then security completely lapsed one night and he decided to lull himself again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106078)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:03 PM
Author: azure boiling water mediation

do you think it would be harder to stage a suicide or enter a failed suicide attempt into the record?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106346)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: fragrant smoky range

This guy tried to kill him, that’s where the bruises came from.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/12/us/nicholas-tartaglione-sentenced-epstein-cellmate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106379)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: Boyish Giraffe

Yes. Trump would never lie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105765)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Misanthropic offensive antidepressant drug volcanic crater

Sometimes the government is obligated to lie or keep secrets and we have to accept that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105780)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: Boyish Giraffe

esp about raping American kids. We wouldnt want the truth to come out and upset people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105829)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: Misanthropic offensive antidepressant drug volcanic crater

These weren't kids or pedophile stuff. These girls were 16+.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106042)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: Boyish Giraffe

So if no crime, why cover up? You can fuck 16-17 abroad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106074)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Histrionic insane roast beef

cuz government are our betters and we must kiss the ring and bless their kiddie sex

it's the ideal that birthed our nation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106076)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:52 PM
Author: Histrionic insane roast beef

(thomas jefferson)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105986)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: thriller hideous useless brakes

he was clearly killed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105840)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:13 PM
Author: Lavender Dragon Ratface

Hell to the NO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49105863)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: Startling dog poop

Define "killed." I think the most likely explanation was that his jailers knew that he was suicidal and also hated him as a pedo, so they gave him the proverbial rope to hang himself. It is weird, though, that the "full security video" was very obviously edited. I still think the most likely explanation was that the full video showed that they left a sheet or something for him to hang himself with, but it is still strange.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106243)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:16 PM
Author: Concupiscible stage

What is this "we" bullshit? This isn't some kind of hive consciousness

I'm open to various things, but one of the ones I'm not is suicide. That's fucking ridiculous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106372)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: fragrant smoky range

Epstein was only the second successful “suicide” in 40 years at MCC.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/epstein-new-york-lockup-suicides

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106388)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Cowardly chad whorehouse

Isn't it interesting that they waited until daytime, then wheeled his body, out of a bodybag, face uncovered, out in public so a well-placed photographer could capture a picture of said body, proving that he was, in fact, dead and had not, instead, walked out of jail and into a new chapter of his clearly very well connected life?

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/08/epstein-body.jpg

https://nypost.com/2022/08/10/jeffrey-epsteins-death-three-years-later-what-we-know-and-whats-still-a-mystery/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106448)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Cerise insanely creepy pozpig

necessary state hit, he knew too many judges and politicians inside the system, I gather that the reason that public officials are freaking out about releasing the list is that SCOTUS are involved, foreign "dignitaries" etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106449)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 5:00 PM
Author: Razzmatazz slate macaca

imo he is too rich and jewish to be killed and to kill himself

only possibility imo is body double + went back to israel to chill and retire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106454)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: maroon alcoholic temple

otoh, people accused of sex crimes involving minors or young women often killself, before or after they go to jail.

otoh, inmates had an incentive to kill him regardless of the Mossad-IC angle.

otthirdhand, IC and Mossad had an incentive to have him killed.

otfourthhand, he could have accepted his fate for the greater good and either killedself or didn't fight when the inmate offed him.

how can we really know at this point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Elisa#49106473)