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Pessimist Dissident Substackers: Part 2

This post explores the divide between philosophically optimi...
startled heaven pocket flask
  07/18/25
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startled heaven pocket flask
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this guy doesn't seem to understand what philosophical pessi...
motley tan step-uncle's house
  07/18/25
https://neofeudalreview.substack.com/p/philosophical-pessimi...
startled heaven pocket flask
  07/18/25
Nietzsche wasn't a pessimist. Schopenhauer was, but Nietzsch...
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  07/18/25
Yes he was; they differed in *response* to the pessimism, no...
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  07/18/25
The response is what makes someone a pessimist though - some...
motley tan step-uncle's house
  07/18/25
philosophical pessimism is that the base conditions of this ...
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I suppose you could consider that a sort of inverted pessimi...
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180 i'm Rehabilitating OYT alongside Brussels Sprouts tp ...
Crystalline roommate really tough guy
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wow
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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:56 AM
Author: startled heaven pocket flask

This post explores the divide between philosophically optimistic and pessimistic voices within the dissident space and discusses the personal and strategic implications of networking, audience size, and ideological alignment. It reflects on how optimists dominate reach due to hopeful messaging, while pessimists - often introverts with darker worldviews - pursue connection more for spiritual and intellectual growth. A map of writers across these spectrums is provided, offering insight into a fragmented but evolving ideological landscape.

https://neofeudalreview.substack.com/p/pessimist-dissident-substackers-part

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751752&forum_id=2Elisa#49111433)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: startled heaven pocket flask



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: motley tan step-uncle's house

this guy doesn't seem to understand what philosophical pessimism is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751752&forum_id=2Elisa#49111614)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:17 AM
Author: startled heaven pocket flask

https://neofeudalreview.substack.com/p/philosophical-pessimism-a-denial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751752&forum_id=2Elisa#49111617)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: motley tan step-uncle's house

Nietzsche wasn't a pessimist. Schopenhauer was, but Nietzsche was "responding" to Schopenhauer's thoughts on the "will".

In any case, actual pessimism has always been unpopular. And argumentum ad populum is the world's favorite fallacy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751752&forum_id=2Elisa#49111635)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: startled heaven pocket flask

Yes he was; they differed in *response* to the pessimism, not to the diagnosis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751752&forum_id=2Elisa#49111647)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: motley tan step-uncle's house

The response is what makes someone a pessimist though - someone who adopts Schopenhauer's denial of the Will to Live is a pessimist but someone who opts for Nietzsche's Will to Power is an optimist. A nihilistic optimist perhaps, but an optimist nonetheless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751752&forum_id=2Elisa#49111651)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:36 AM
Author: startled heaven pocket flask

philosophical pessimism is that the base conditions of this world mean that one cannot be satisfied: humans are always either striving for an object or bored, nothing we do lasts, and existence is suffering. furthermore, it is an endless cornicopia of violence -- one must consume other living creatures in order to survive.

schopenhauer responded to this with ascetic withdrawal. nietzsche responded to it with will-to-power to try to *spite* underlying reality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751752&forum_id=2Elisa#49111656)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: motley tan step-uncle's house

I suppose you could consider that a sort of inverted pessimism, but it really isn't any different than how most humans live these days. Pretty much everyone is a nihilist with their own set of values and indulging in will-to-power. The ones that cry about "nihilism" in society are just uneducated about what that means.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751752&forum_id=2Elisa#49111664)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:37 AM
Author: Crystalline roommate really tough guy

180

i'm Rehabilitating OYT alongside Brussels Sprouts tp

today is a New Day and a Great Day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751752&forum_id=2Elisa#49111658)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:20 PM
Author: startled heaven pocket flask

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751752&forum_id=2Elisa#49111732)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Thriller Dragon Idiot

From the people who brought you “Big Black Asses: Part IV” and “Horny Wet Milfs: Part IX”…

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751752&forum_id=2Elisa#49111640)