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Capital gains in USA are higher than many EU countries
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 1:33 PM Author: ,.,,,. 15%+4%niit is what most uppermiddle class people in usa pay. That's slightly lower than spain,portugal, France (30%). But all it takes is for the next president to equate cap gains/dividends to ordinary income.. Greece has 0%, croatia 12%, Bulgaria 10%. |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 5:08 AM Author: tats tax laws in shitholes are subject to change on a whim, whilst tax laws in the US are ironclad, making it a safe haven for doing business and investment.
sales tax in croatia is 25%, and everyone who is connected gets paid cash in hand for just about everything, making it impossible to do business legally without subjecting yourself to crushing poverty.
at least in the states, you can live your life without needing to find the next 'scheme' until you're eligible for a pension at age 73. |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 12:07 PM Author: """'"'"""'' butt cheeks is the dumbest poaster on xo, hth
Date: August 4th, 2025 11:46 AM Author: butt cheeks (✅🍑)
guess race the correlation bw % of negros and homicide rates is almost perfect White Americans have Scandinavian homicide rates, senseless murder is a nigger thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757822&forum_id=2#49155124)
in case anyone is reading this stupid piece of shit thinking he's citing facts, LMAO.... as a reminder, he's just a worthless hack, a subhuman troll. lying on a Web 1.0 board is all he does with his life...
SPOILER, it's not even close, and the fact that he thought his lie was believable demonstrates the mental rot of this inferior subhuman.
facts:
The homicide rate in Sweden has fluctuated over the past two decades but has generally remained around 1 per 100,000 inhabitants. In 2023, the rate was 1.15, with 124 homicides reported. This followed a peak in 2020 at 1.2 per 100,000. In 2024, the number of homicides dropped to 92, the lowest since 2014, largely due to reduced gang-related gun violence following increased police surveillance and new powers like electronic eavesdropping. Despite this decline, Sweden’s homicide rate, particularly gun-related deaths, remains higher than many EU countries, driven by gang violence in urban areas like Stockholm, Gothenburg, and Malmö. Historically, the rate was lowest in 2012 at 0.71 per 100,000. Note that Swedish statistics initially include all investigated deaths as potential homicides, which may inflate reported numbers compared to countries with stricter classifications.
In 2023, the homicide rate among white Americans was 3.9 per 100,000, according to CDC mortality data. This is notably lower than the national homicide rate of 7.1 per 100,000 for the same year. For white males, the rate was 5.7 per 100,000, and for white females, it was significantly lower, though specific figures for females alone are less commonly isolated in the data. Firearms were used in 70.1% of homicides involving white victims, compared to higher rates for other racial groups. These figures reflect a broader trend where homicide rates for white Americans have remained relatively stable over recent years, with a slight decline noted in some studies from 2021 to 2023. |
Date: August 3rd, 2025 1:38 PM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) It should be equal to income rates and step up just like income taxes do as your gain increase.
Also, any unrealized gains should be taxed once you pledge it. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 2:47 PM Author: ,.,,,. That's what might happen under the next Obama. So people buying up stock indexes may end up with 35% tax bill when they're ready to retire, that's higher than france. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153047) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 3:16 PM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) i hope so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153126) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 4:11 PM Author: ,.,,,. I am not surprised. Average American is a tyranny fucking faggot or a turd. That's why the tax system is even more dangerous than. Canada/uk/etc. UK citizens can easily move to Greece/cyprus/Portugal and pay 0% tax. Even dubai if all else fails. But in usa if the next president equates capital gains to ordinary income, the only way to avoid paying 40% is to sell all your stocks and move to russia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153275) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 6:32 PM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) US taxes move with you bro. Moving to Russia wouldnt stop that. hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153509) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 8:29 PM Author: ,.,,,. I'm pretty sure I don't even have to go as far as Russia. Even opening an account in dubai or Malaysia and transferring all cash there means irs can't get me. But that means I can no longer get any money in usa. It might be cheaper to just exit u.s. cizienship and maintain a stock account in qqq then I pay 0% capital gains as long as the other country doesn't charge capital gains (i.e. Greece has 0% capital gains or portugal first 10 years). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153812) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 10:08 AM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) ? All of those banks/brokerages report info to the IRS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154919) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 6:41 PM Author: Hang Kikelensky NOW Fuck this commie poor faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153536) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 6:44 PM Author: Crimson Permanent Assurance big shocker: famous poormo tt6 rushes into yet another thread to claim he’s owed more of other people’s money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153542) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 8:31 PM Author: ,.,,,. He is saying what is the probably view of 50% population of usa. Even if a lot of people have 1mln+ in ira and regular brokerage spy, many more have 0. It makes sense for them to vote to make capital gains equal to ordinary income. The only reason that hasn't passed yet is because senators prefer to pay lower taxes themselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153816) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 8:35 PM Author: AZNgirl telling 5'4 White Guy He's Tall Enough IIRC back in the day cap gains rates were same as income, it was only reagan? or dubya? that changed it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153821) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 8:41 PM Author: ,.,,,. I didn't know about that. Does it mean that usa had higher taxes for upper middle class than most eu countries? I'm pretty sure most eu countries raised cap gains recently, i.e. Belgium has 0% cap gains now which was probably standard in eu in 90s or 80s. But that's my point usa is at risk at becoming worse tax than eu. Anybody living in Spain or Portugal can move to Bulgaria or Andorra and pay 10% tax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153836) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: AZNgirl telling 5'4 White Guy He's Tall Enough USA is nigga and even trump doesnt really care anymore abt lowering taxes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153842) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 2:11 AM Author: ,.,,,. I know. That's why my concern that usa may become like France. Funny that as an American citizen I can move to France and get much better tax rate than locals. Probably tax treaty with France was made by some u.s. bigwig who wanted to retire to France so gave them an idea don't charge anything but once I die u get full estate taxes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154496) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 2:59 AM Author: Louis Poasteur 99% of countries give tax incentives to foreigners these days that obligate them to pay less in tax than locals do. They think of their citizens as moronic tax cattle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154525) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 12:41 AM Author: Crimson Permanent Assurance yes. poor losers think they’re entitled to other people’s money. my point is that tt6 is one of these poor losers, not that they don’t exist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154249) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 10:10 AM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) what is poor friend? i am in the top 10% of americas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154924) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 10:45 AM Author: Crimson Permanent Assurance and i am the single highest (the absolute top!) earner in my household, but that’s a pretty shitty basis for comparison imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154978) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 10:46 AM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154980) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 10:09 AM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) I guess anyone thinking we should provide basic healthcare to all americans i just trying to grab more money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154922) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 10:50 AM Author: ,.,,,. Just tax the corporations.. cap gains and dividends is what about 20% of Middle to upper middle live off. That's what allows a normal person to retire in france. And it's money on which taxes were already paid and now I pay "only" 19% for investing after tax money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154989) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 10:52 AM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) ok but if corps pay both salaries and cap gains/dividends, why would we tax lower class (wage earners) at higher rates than the upper class (asset holding)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154994) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 10:11 AM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) solid argument. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154929) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 8:34 PM Author: AZNgirl telling 5'4 White Guy He's Tall Enough stfu shitlib, if anything they shld just get rid of ALL taxes on any investment income for first 100k whether divs, interest, or cap gains (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153819) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 10:12 AM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) if we do the same for incomes, then fine. that's kinda my point.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154931) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 9:13 PM Author: peeface i'd accept taxing it as income when taken as income, but see no reason to tax it if it is being rolled into other investments.
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 9:31 PM Author: AZNgirl telling 5'4 White Guy He's Tall Enough yea but then ppl wld just roll everything into another investment, i actually wld like that policy but they never wld do it but it does seem stupid ur investmemnt decisions have to be so impacted by tax shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49153910) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 10:11 AM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) why not not tax incomes if its needed for basic things like food or rent then? why tax people trying to feed themselves but not someone moving more money in RE or equities? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49154927) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 12:03 PM Author: peeface because we shouldn't create fake incentives to encourage people to hold economically unproductive investments rather than moving their money into productive ones through taxation?
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Date: August 4th, 2025 12:10 PM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) "we shouldn't create fake incentives to encourage people to hold economically unproductive investments"
agreed. not sure why you posted this |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 12:12 PM Author: peeface because you were advocating for exactly that
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Date: August 4th, 2025 12:14 PM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49155273) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 12:06 PM Author: Emperor CRISPR Chad von Neumann III Many Euro countries also have exclusions for the first $X of gains and certain other base measurement tricks that bring down their effective rates. Many also have favorable timing rules, like their UCITS funds that don’t have to pay out capital gains the same way U.S. funds do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757702&forum_id=2Reputation#49155244) |