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5-10 years... "biglawyers" = lamplighters out of work

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Kink-friendly lettuce
  07/18/25
God willing
Jet floppy site
  07/18/25
Inshallah
Kink-friendly lettuce
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chocolate quadroon
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Kink-friendly lettuce
  07/18/25
nickel endimed
Blue hyperventilating stock car
  07/18/25
What happens next though? Clearly we still have lawyers ...
Mauve beady-eyed church
  07/18/25
Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling m...
Brass range
  07/18/25
What is the bulk of your business
bull headed unholy stag film
  07/18/25
The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions...
Brass range
  07/18/25
lol 180
zippy stage pervert
  07/18/25
180
bull headed unholy stag film
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racy hateful abode
  07/19/25
prole squabbles, llp
Aromatic Step-uncle's House
  07/18/25
UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologi...
titillating trailer park
  07/18/25
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Kink-friendly lettuce
  07/18/25
how about we just have billionaires who "lord" ove...
cream piazza volcanic crater
  07/18/25
Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money ...
walnut stimulating garrison liquid oxygen
  07/18/25
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Kink-friendly lettuce
  07/18/25
I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impr...
Hilarious sooty forum tank
  07/18/25
I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capa...
Topaz coldplay fan resort
  07/18/25
It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there&rsqu...
Razzle-dazzle messiness
  07/18/25
Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro ...
Topaz coldplay fan resort
  07/18/25
It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucina...
Razzle-dazzle messiness
  07/18/25
Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex lo...
Razzle-dazzle messiness
  07/18/25
Coping fag hello
Razzle-dazzle messiness
  07/18/25
You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to ...
Topaz coldplay fan resort
  07/18/25
Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to...
Heady rigpig
  07/18/25
Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of s...
Razzle-dazzle messiness
  07/19/25
Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argu...
Concupiscible base
  07/19/25
Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law produ...
Wang Hernandez
  07/19/25
OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants
Diverse Feces Stain
  07/18/25
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Appetizing community account
  07/19/25
I wish.
Vibrant half-breed hospital
  07/18/25
Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. ...
black indirect expression karate
  07/18/25


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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:16 AM
Author: Kink-friendly lettuce



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:23 AM
Author: Jet floppy site

God willing

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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: Kink-friendly lettuce

Inshallah

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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: chocolate quadroon



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: Kink-friendly lettuce



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: Blue hyperventilating stock car

nickel endimed

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Date: July 18th, 2025 6:33 AM
Author: Mauve beady-eyed church

What happens next though?

Clearly we still have lawyers and law firms, but perhaps the firm headcount drops to 10% the current headcount, and AI/software picks up the slack.

In that world, is the firm owned by just a handful of partners? Do law firms start to act like lean software companies? When does a U.S. firm IPO?

The counterpoint btw is that we just do a lot more work that was prohibitively expensive before. For example, I probably see 25+ cease and desist letters for every lawsuit, because letters cost $5-10k and lawsuits cost $100k to initiate and $5M+ to litigate through summary judgment. If cost of litigation drops [80%] people may file many more lawsuits. There could be an analogous dynamic on the corporate/business side.

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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Brass range

Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling me virtually every day because their "friend" cheated them out of $300 or something. I tell them it doesn't make financial sense to pursue that and they start crying. There's a big untapped market out there for adjudicating squabbles among proles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111342)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: bull headed unholy stag film

What is the bulk of your business

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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Brass range

The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions, construction disputes, zoning issues. Tons of lawsuits over exactly who owns some piece of land, often with a rotting mobile home sitting on it. Average client expenditure is about $3000, but that varies wildly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111405)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: zippy stage pervert

lol 180

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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: bull headed unholy stag film

180

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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: racy hateful abode



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Aromatic Step-uncle's House

prole squabbles, llp

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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: titillating trailer park

UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologies)for the technologists or corporations replacing people with chatbots needs to be scrutinized and tracked ASAP to start determining the amount owed to the american citizenry

it's critical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111414)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Kink-friendly lettuce



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: cream piazza volcanic crater

how about we just have billionaires who "lord" over us and poors who you could say serve or maybe "serf" them and then anyone who doesn't go along with this gets to die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49113524)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: walnut stimulating garrison liquid oxygen

Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money as soon as you fucking can

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111417)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Kink-friendly lettuce



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Hilarious sooty forum tank

I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impressed. It helps, it certainly makes us more productive, but major reductions in headcount? Also, everyone keeps saying wait another year. But we’re a couple of years in and the capabilities (at least as applied to law) seem about the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111420)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: Topaz coldplay fan resort

I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capabilities have skyrocketed over the past two years and there's no reason that wouldn't apply to law if it applies subjects that are at least as complex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111435)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle messiness

It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there’s no objectively correct answer unlike coding or whatever. Here’s a better explanation why law is harder to master for AI than coding.

Coding is governed by strict syntax and deterministic rules. A given input in a programming language will always produce the same output if the code is correct.

• Legal analysis involves ambiguous language, conflicting authorities, policy tradeoffs, and context-sensitive reasoning—skills that require human judgment and real-world understanding.

AI has been trained on massive open-source code repositories like GitHub, with clear labels, documentation, and results. This data is abundant, consistent, and high-quality.

• Legal data is more fragmented:

• Case law is often behind paywalls.

• Court decisions may be long, inconsistent, or involve complex procedural postures.

• Outcomes are not always “correct” or universally agreed upon.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111495)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: Topaz coldplay fan resort

Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro can absolutely handle textual nuance and complex questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle messiness

It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucinations or misstatements of the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111526)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle messiness

Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex logic, unlike coding, there’s no single correct answer to the important questions that get litigated, the legal background is often contradictory and nuanced so you can’t just train it easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111634)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle messiness

Coping fag hello

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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Topaz coldplay fan resort

You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to generate responses when there isn't an objectively correct answer, there isn't much else to say. If anything law being subjective bullshit will make it easier to automate. When I deal with ai skeptics these days I mostly just wait for reality to prove them wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111715)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Heady rigpig

Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to replace paralegals and juniors to have an enormous impact, which it pretty much already has

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49112807)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:23 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle messiness

Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of saying “I’m just wrong” with no explanation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49113912)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: Concupiscible base

Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argument to the answer it just gave you

(delete the em dash next time you retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49113914)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: Wang Hernandez

Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law products are pretty shit for any complex practice.

No doubt that people who rely on making money through teams of 20 paralegals filling out forms and doing rote tasks will change a lot but automating such repetitive thoughtless tasks is entirely different than writing a compelling brief based on nuanced and complex facts in an uncertain area of law.

It most likely will be similar to how word processing eliminated a lot of support positions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49114500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: Diverse Feces Stain

OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111438)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 1:33 AM
Author: Appetizing community account



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Vibrant half-breed hospital

I wish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111468)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: black indirect expression karate

Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. Add on top that people using it are dumber. All AI is going to do is maybe help the few smart people left do stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2Reputation#49111741)