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Product management--what the fuck is this flame and how do I get a job doing it?

Do you need a degree in CS or EE to cop a gig like this? Or ...
Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed
  10/19/16
It's 100% flame you can talk your way into.
carnelian center
  10/19/16
Not flame? Seems like a decent paying gig.
Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed
  10/19/16
you get paid to be yelled at 24/7 to meet unrealistic deadli...
Coiffed goyim
  10/19/16
What do you have to deliver by your "deadline"? Wh...
Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed
  10/19/16
well, if you're a shitty PM when the project is late you bla...
Coiffed goyim
  10/19/16
YES but what the fuck do you DO? What service do your provid...
Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed
  10/19/16
You're basically a middle man between devs and HR/management
carnelian center
  10/19/16
you take the specifications from the customers and you bring...
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  10/19/16
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  06/11/26
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Words of Affirmation
  06/11/26
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Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle
  06/11/26
you figure out what features shoudl be in your product (base...
mildly autistic double fault legal warrant
  10/19/16
Doesn't actually seem like a bad job.
Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed
  10/19/16
it ranges. at the grunt level you are a project manager and ...
mildly autistic double fault legal warrant
  10/19/16
I'm assuming they make decent money too
Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed
  10/19/16
genrealyl slightly less or similar as a good developer d...
mildly autistic double fault legal warrant
  10/19/16
How would one transition into this kind of work ? Like what...
Walnut Nibblets
  10/19/16
most common - programming or MBA. you can get into it from d...
mildly autistic double fault legal warrant
  10/19/16
Did you have a law background at all?
Walnut Nibblets
  10/19/16
It's not bad considering that PM's know literally nothing an...
carnelian center
  10/19/16
I know a bro who went from a product counsel at a tech compa...
Misunderstood fishy area doctorate
  10/19/16
They like to see certs on your resume. Pmi.
electric crimson tanning salon
  10/19/16
What kind of certs?
Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed
  10/19/16
Project management institute comes up a lot. Spill over to l...
electric crimson tanning salon
  10/19/16
Okay so basically just bullshit and not like learning code o...
Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed
  10/19/16
Yeah, these are not stem types. More like biz Mgmt.
electric crimson tanning salon
  10/19/16
you just manage products and tell them what to do bro. occas...
mildly autistic double fault legal warrant
  10/19/16
So basically you just crack the whip on the code spergs?
Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed
  10/19/16
A lot of people with general business degrees in it, anythin...
Startled big point
  10/19/16
ur thinking of project management product mgmt is differe...
mildly autistic double fault legal warrant
  10/19/16
Lol I did the same thing.
electric crimson tanning salon
  10/19/16


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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:11 PM
Author: Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed

Do you need a degree in CS or EE to cop a gig like this? Or is it more sales/business/research oriented?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679381)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:12 PM
Author: carnelian center

It's 100% flame you can talk your way into.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679386)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:14 PM
Author: Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed

Not flame? Seems like a decent paying gig.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679408)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:18 PM
Author: Coiffed goyim

you get paid to be yelled at 24/7 to meet unrealistic deadlines and deal with ornery software developers and make barely 10-15% more than they do.

IMHO not worth it as a career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679426)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:19 PM
Author: Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed

What do you have to deliver by your "deadline"? What's the BOTTOM LINE?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679440)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:21 PM
Author: Coiffed goyim

well, if you're a shitty PM when the project is late you blame the team. 'You' don't technically have to deliver anything but a project plan and status reports.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679447)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:23 PM
Author: Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed

YES but what the fuck do you DO? What service do your provide to your company?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679464)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:24 PM
Author: carnelian center

You're basically a middle man between devs and HR/management

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679476)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:29 PM
Author: aphrodisiac saffron hospital striped hyena

you take the specifications from the customers and you bring them down to the software engineers. you deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679511)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: cosmic penis



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Date: June 11th, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: Words of Affirmation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#49930527)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 12:19 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡±)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#49930554)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:27 PM
Author: mildly autistic double fault legal warrant

you figure out what features shoudl be in your product (based on customer interviews, market research, competitive reseach etc)

you plan out how those features should be implemented, and work with your programmers and other teams to make it happen

you also figure out how your product should be marketed and priced (based on market research, nubmer crunching etc)

at the high level, you figure out strategic product direction, like what you should be making, what it should look/feel like, etc. (jonathan ive/apple type)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679496)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:32 PM
Author: Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed

Doesn't actually seem like a bad job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679527)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:35 PM
Author: mildly autistic double fault legal warrant

it ranges. at the grunt level you are a project manager and just run around pushing people for updates and deadlines etc.

it can be really boring/stupid too. at the jr level you are developing spec docs that say "and when you click this button on the website it brings you to this page. if you click this other button it brings you to this other page"

at the mid/sr level its more interesting as you are more involved in setting direction of the product (3 of our competitors have xyz feature, so we will build it, or we will not build it because we think abc feature is more compelling and will get us more users, etc etc)

at the very sr level as with all jobs it's pretty good but stressful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679554)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:50 PM
Author: Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed

I'm assuming they make decent money too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679668)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:53 PM
Author: mildly autistic double fault legal warrant

genrealyl slightly less or similar as a good developer

depends on the type of company too - if you are at a traditional enterprise software company, you'll make significnatly less. at goog you will make more as they require pms to be former developers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679701)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:54 PM
Author: Walnut Nibblets

How would one transition into this kind of work ? Like what's the job you take before you become a PM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679715)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 4:04 PM
Author: mildly autistic double fault legal warrant

most common - programming or MBA. you can get into it from design, marketing, operations, project management type roles as well. really if you work at a startup and are smart/capable you'll touch/influence the product at some point. that's how i got into it.

you can also get hired directly out of college but those are usualyl the gruntwork type roles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679805)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 4:05 PM
Author: Walnut Nibblets

Did you have a law background at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679818)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:22 PM
Author: carnelian center

It's not bad considering that PM's know literally nothing and are often times actual retards. Everyone in tech who isn't actual talent should be grateful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679456)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:21 PM
Author: Misunderstood fishy area doctorate

I know a bro who went from a product counsel at a tech company and then pivoted into being a product manager and he's now a director.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679450)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:22 PM
Author: electric crimson tanning salon

They like to see certs on your resume. Pmi.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679458)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:25 PM
Author: Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed

What kind of certs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679482)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:26 PM
Author: electric crimson tanning salon

Project management institute comes up a lot. Spill over to lean six sigma mumbo jumbo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679494)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:31 PM
Author: Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed

Okay so basically just bullshit and not like learning code or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679522)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:37 PM
Author: electric crimson tanning salon

Yeah, these are not stem types. More like biz Mgmt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679572)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:24 PM
Author: mildly autistic double fault legal warrant

you just manage products and tell them what to do bro. occasionalyl you have to discipline or fire one and it gets to be a pain but otherwise pretty chill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679478)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:25 PM
Author: Dark Mischievous Travel Guidebook Half-breed

So basically you just crack the whip on the code spergs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679485)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:26 PM
Author: Startled big point

A lot of people with general business degrees in it, anything from "business administration" or finance/accounting/econ or MBAs and other grad types.

The job is just babysitting a project. You don't really do actual work. You check with other groups who do the actual work to make sure they're doing it and let everyone know where everyone else is.

Basically everyone hates you because you are constantly pinging them for updates ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679495)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:27 PM
Author: mildly autistic double fault legal warrant

ur thinking of project management

product mgmt is different

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679506)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:38 PM
Author: electric crimson tanning salon

Lol I did the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2Reputation#31679579)