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New OpenAI general reasoning model gets gold medal at international math olympia

d. value of human intelligence falling every day. 180 times....
Demanding sandwich
  07/19/25
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Irradiated maize principal's office dingle berry
  07/19/25
Gemini getting 50% on USAMO made me think this would happen ...
Mahogany library dopamine
  07/19/25
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infuriating arousing water buffalo
  07/19/25
Yes, it's truly remarkable how quickly AI has advanced in co...
pea-brained dashing gaming laptop
  07/20/25
this is their in-house super model that doesn't have guardra...
Cerise puppy heaven
  07/19/25
they might deploy this model but it's also unlikely they'll ...
Mahogany library dopamine
  07/19/25
all doomsday scenarios imply a frontier model at HQ signific...
Cerise puppy heaven
  07/19/25
this fucking faggot:
Cerise puppy heaven
  07/20/25
It doesn’t matter if you know what you are doing you c...
angry puce stead
  07/20/25
Please give us a guide on jailbreaking? I’m not ent...
Cerise puppy heaven
  07/20/25
It should be possible to get the compute cost down much lowe...
,.,.,.,,,.,,.,..,.,.,.,.,,.
  07/20/25
who the fuck cares lmao it just knows stuff poasted on the i...
Mint insecure boistinker
  07/19/25
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green passionate scourge upon the earth bbw
  07/20/25
so it can solve math problems that humans already solved? id...
Bat-shit-crazy Copper Parlor
  07/20/25
problems at the forefront of human knowledge. that's all AGI...
Cerise puppy heaven
  07/20/25
so is it over yet or no
offensive old irish cottage theater stage
  07/20/25
soon. we need Butlerian Jihad
Cerise puppy heaven
  07/20/25
why? so you can live in a nice suburb with your useless yupp...
gold pervert
  07/20/25
I'm scared :(
rape bunny
  07/20/25
Get in losers, the system is burning down just like you alwa...
Do you agree?
  07/20/25
AI sucks at law
Poppy provocative orchestra pit keepsake machete
  07/20/25
AI was getting 2+2 wrong a year ago. Cope retard
Cerise puppy heaven
  07/20/25
AI still sucks at law
Poppy provocative orchestra pit keepsake machete
  07/20/25
That’s because law is a bullshit tribal human social n...
angry puce stead
  07/20/25
Law is 180
Wang Hernandez
  07/20/25
"Actually, this is just an AI being equivalent with the...
AdolfHitler88
  07/20/25
There are a handful of high school students with 150+ IQ tha...
Demanding sandwich
  07/20/25
Lmao use grok 4 which is publicly available and tell me ther...
angry puce stead
  07/20/25
Phenotype’s relative value skyrockets as chink GPA val...
frozen athletic conference crotch
  07/20/25
Yeah and it’s actually much better than that. The tes...
angry puce stead
  07/20/25
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infuriating arousing water buffalo
  07/20/25
What a hilarious is it doesn’t even do math in the sen...
angry puce stead
  07/20/25
Can it give a blowjob without biting my dick off?
Aromatic Nursing Home
  07/20/25
If not already then it’s coming soon enough
angry puce stead
  07/20/25
What about other AI models doing the same questions? Does th...
Razzmatazz goyim office
  07/20/25
The rumor is that DeepMind got gold as well. No one is very ...
Demanding sandwich
  07/20/25
I don’t know. These benchmarks are fake. I remember ...
angry puce stead
  07/20/25
Terrence Tao is chimping out about this on Twitter lol
AdolfHitler88
  07/20/25
Google got gold too using a large language model. "W...
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Date: July 19th, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: Demanding sandwich

d. value of human intelligence falling every day. 180 times.

https://x.com/alexwei_/status/1946477742855532918?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49114310)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: Irradiated maize principal's office dingle berry



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:23 PM
Author: Mahogany library dopamine

Gemini getting 50% on USAMO made me think this would happen in a couple years. it's somewhat surprising it happened this year. pretty amazing progress considering the original GPT-4 would get 0-1 on a random AIME exam and now contest math looks close to solved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115116)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: infuriating arousing water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115125)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:59 AM
Author: pea-brained dashing gaming laptop

Yes, it's truly remarkable how quickly AI has advanced in contest math! Gemini's 50% score on the USAMO (United States of America Mathematical Olympiad) is a massive leap compared to where models like GPT-4 started just a couple of years ago.

### Key Observations on the Progress:

1. **From Near-Zero to Competitive Performance**

- Early versions of GPT-4 struggled to score even 1-2 problems on the AIME (American Invitational Mathematics Exam), which is significantly easier than the USAMO.

- Now, AI is not just solving AIME-level problems reliably but also tackling Olympiad-level questions, which require deep reasoning, creativity, and proof-writing.

2. **Why This is Surprising**

- Many experts (including myself) expected this level to take at least 2-3 more years. The fact that it happened this year suggests:

- Better training techniques (e.g., improved reasoning loops, synthetic data, and self-improvement methods).

- Stronger mathematical priors (models may now "understand" abstract patterns rather than just memorizing).

- Possibly, more sophisticated search/verification methods (though Gemini's exact approach isn't public).

3. **Is Contest Math "Close to Solved"?**

- **For AIME:** Probably yes. AI is likely near-superhuman at this level already.

- **For USAMO/IMO:** Not yet, but progress is accelerating. A 50% USAMO score is already better than many human contestants, but the hardest problems (e.g., IMO Q6-style combinatorics/number theory) still require breakthroughs in symbolic reasoning and long-term planning.

- **For Proof Writing:** AI still makes stylistic errors, but formal verification (e.g., Lean) can help close the gap.

4. **What’s Next?**

- **IMO Gold (60+ score) within 1-2 years?** If progress continues at this rate, it's plausible.

- **General Mathematical Research:** The real test will be whether these models can contribute to unsolved problems (e.g., combinatorics conjectures, lightweight formal math).

### Why This Matters Beyond Olympiads:

- **Education:** AI could become the ultimate tutor for advanced math.

- **Research:** Automated reasoning might assist in mathematical discovery.

- **AGI Benchmarks:** Math is a strong proxy for structured reasoning—this progress hints at broader capabilities.

It’s an exciting time! Wouldn’t be surprised if an AI wins an IMO gold medal by 2026.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115797)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:26 PM
Author: Cerise puppy heaven

this is their in-house super model that doesn't have guardrails and does 20mil token recursive chain of thought or something. when we get gpt-5 it will be some distilled faggot version of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115121)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: Mahogany library dopamine

they might deploy this model but it's also unlikely they'll give it as much compute as they used here. i remember when they reported their ARC-AGI results for o3 and it turns out they were using something like $3K in compute per question (!). the number here is likely even higher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115148)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 9:11 PM
Author: Cerise puppy heaven

all doomsday scenarios imply a frontier model at HQ significantly more capable than the dogshit distillations given out to civilians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115331)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 12:54 AM
Author: Cerise puppy heaven
Subject: this fucking faggot:

"we are releasing GPT-5 soon but want to set accurate expectations: this is an experimental model that incorporates new research techniques we will use in future models. we think you will love GPT-5, but we don't plan to release a model with IMO gold level of capability for many months."

https://x.com/sama/status/1946569252296929727

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115705)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: angry puce stead

It doesn’t matter if you know what you are doing you can feed it ts output back to it and fix things yourself to ensure the safety guardrails Dont demolish your proofs in a cloud of skepticism and bullshit footnotes. You don’t need their “internal model”. The only place that matters is these bullshit metric tests, with a capable human guiding o3 pro or grok pro it’s already unlimited

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116464)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:51 PM
Author: Cerise puppy heaven

Please give us a guide on jailbreaking?

I’m not entirely talking about guardrails here. Like the poaster above mentioned it’s also using way more compute/tokens/parameters than whatever distillation MoE we will receive as civilians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116798)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,,,.,,.,..,.,.,.,.,,.


It should be possible to get the compute cost down much lower with distillation on the reasoning traces from large models. This is just a proof of concept. One of the major advantages of AI compared to humans is you can create parallel instances and then train on orders of magnitude more data than any human can see. Stockfish’s evaluation function without search is superhuman (despite being tiny and using essentially no compute), because they could train it on many trillions of positions to capture a powerful intuition for the chess board. We will likely see the same thing happen with reasoning models. Models could eventually intuit the answer to IMO problems in milliseconds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49117843)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: Mint insecure boistinker

who the fuck cares lmao it just knows stuff poasted on the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115149)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 9:27 AM
Author: green passionate scourge upon the earth bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116050)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 12:58 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Copper Parlor

so it can solve math problems that humans already solved? idk, doesn't sound that big to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115707)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 2:59 AM
Author: Cerise puppy heaven

problems at the forefront of human knowledge. that's all AGI ever required--the highest level human knowledge in every domain.

are you dumb btw? you can't grasp the implications of this? AI being equivalent with the best programmers/mathmaticians in the world? Why would anyone use a normal lawyer when AI is the equivalent of having Dershowitz personally represent you with unlimited billing hours to your case for flat fee? it's all over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115777)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: offensive old irish cottage theater stage

so is it over yet or no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115784)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:23 AM
Author: Cerise puppy heaven

soon. we need Butlerian Jihad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115786)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: gold pervert

why? so you can live in a nice suburb with your useless yuppie job?

fuck that, total chaos is the only way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116800)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 10:37 PM
Author: rape bunny

I'm scared :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49117821)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 11:10 PM
Author: Do you agree? (🧐)

Get in losers, the system is burning down just like you always wanted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49117886)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:47 AM
Author: Poppy provocative orchestra pit keepsake machete

AI sucks at law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115794)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:55 AM
Author: Cerise puppy heaven

AI was getting 2+2 wrong a year ago. Cope retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49115795)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: Poppy provocative orchestra pit keepsake machete

AI still sucks at law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116445)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:16 PM
Author: angry puce stead

That’s because law is a bullshit tribal human social negotiation game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116458)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:24 PM
Author: Wang Hernandez

Law is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49117437)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: AdolfHitler88

"Actually, this is just an AI being equivalent with the humans who are best at taking math tests"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49117923)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 12:12 PM
Author: Demanding sandwich

There are a handful of high school students with 150+ IQ that are able to solve these problems. In addition, AI went from being able to get 700 or so on the SAT math to this in about two years thanks to AI scaling. Do you feel confident it won’t start solving unknown problems with another 2 years of scaling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116355)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:17 PM
Author: angry puce stead

Lmao use grok 4 which is publicly available and tell me there aren’t already private models solving problems not even defined yet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116460)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: frozen athletic conference crotch

Phenotype’s relative value skyrockets as chink GPA value plummets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116047)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: angry puce stead

Yeah and it’s actually much better than that. The test is the most pro-ape test they can possibly make. The gpt gets one try thinking for 15 seconds or whatever where the human ape gets to sit there and think about it as long as it wants. o3 pro and grok 4 can literally do shit the great ape cant even come close to. Give it some insane witten nonsense or HoTT or locale theory 20 layers of abstraction above normal and it still demolishes it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116457)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:24 PM
Author: infuriating arousing water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116469)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: angry puce stead

What a hilarious is it doesn’t even do math in the sense the apes think of. it’s surfing probability amplitudes across semantically consistent thought manifold, which is actually even more impressive and makes ape thought and obsession with discrete quantities and sets look primitive as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116478)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:31 PM
Author: Aromatic Nursing Home

Can it give a blowjob without biting my dick off?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116486)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: angry puce stead

If not already then it’s coming soon enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116495)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: Razzmatazz goyim office

What about other AI models doing the same questions? Does this mean Open AI is the best?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116490)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: Demanding sandwich

The rumor is that DeepMind got gold as well. No one is very far ahead of the others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116500)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: angry puce stead

I don’t know. These benchmarks are fake. I remember when gpt 4o first came out I fed it Olympiad problems and it solved them just fine. o3 can do higher geometry and category theory if you keep correcting it for 5 passes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49116501)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: AdolfHitler88

Terrence Tao is chimping out about this on Twitter lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49117898)



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Date: July 21st, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: ,.,....,...,,,..,..,.,..,.,.,.,.


Google got gold too using a large language model.

"We can confirm that Google DeepMind has reached the much-desired milestone, earning 35 out of a possible 42 points — a gold medal score. Their solutions were astonishing in many respects. IMO graders found them to be clear, precise and most of them easy to follow."

https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/advanced-version-of-gemini-with-deep-think-officially-achieves-gold-medal-standard-at-the-international-mathematical-olympiad/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752305&forum_id=2Reputation#49119024)