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Reading Ishiguro's The Remains of the Day right now. Pretty great so far.
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:29 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum I'm about 100 pages in. He won the Nobel last year, and I had previously read Never Let Me Go, which was 180, so I figured I'd give his first novel a shot. Obviously Japanese, but he was educated in England and writes in English (adeptly so). Plot is first-person narration by an English butler in the early 20th century, thus far almost exclusively reminiscing about his past. Almost like Victorian style shit like Pride and Prejudice or Jane Eyre, where not a whole lot "happens," but the character development is very strong and the dialogue is awesome. An extended passage about the "dignity" displayed by the narrator's father, who was also a butler, was outstanding. I am excited to read the rest this weekend. |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:57 AM Author: silver wagecucks there's a great passage where the narrator observes his father as the sun sets one evening, i read this book in HS and nearly 20 years later i still remember that bit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36059841) |
Date: May 12th, 2018 1:39 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035044) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:39 AM Author: 180 Shrine Sounds good! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035047) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:40 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum it is man, you should check it out but if you haven't read Never Let Me Go, start with that |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:42 AM Author: 180 Shrine I own it but have never read it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035067) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:42 AM Author: 180 Shrine Your recommendation makes me want to read it though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035069) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:44 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum yeah it is really interesting now reading the novel in my OP that was his first, because the only thing they seem to have in common is the setting (England). Never Let Me Go is essentially sci-fi, but in its most minimalist form. The sci-fi element is so fundamental to the entire plot, and yet you barely notice it's there. |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:45 AM Author: 180 Shrine yeah I have a vague idea what it's about
the one you described in the OP seems more interesting though |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:49 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum another 180 anecdote the narrator recounts: being instructed by his lord to give a guest's soon-to-be-married twentysomething son "the facts of life" talk, because the kid's father is too pussy to do it or something. Butler approaches kid and is like "I have a message to convey. You are aware, I presume, that there are several important distinctions between ladies and gentlemen?" then tries to steer the conversation toward nature (geese, fish, etc.) He never successfully finishes the talk because he always gets interrupted by other matters to attend to. |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:52 AM Author: 180 Shrine thats hilarious
im sold! |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:53 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy stirring range mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035111) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:55 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum I can't tell if you're flaming me or not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035120) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:55 AM Author: 180 Shrine I'm not I'm being entirely honest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035124) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:59 AM Author: silver wagecucks never let me go is so so good, i loved how there's this mystery as to what's going on, the twist is never explicitly revealed, but it becomes obvious anyway, and it happens with like half the novel left anyway - it's so kooky and 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36059847) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:04 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum yeah it's 180 as I stated above ITT, it's extremely understated sci-fi. Like the sci-fi element is so crucial to the whole plot, yet it's very rarely even discussed |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:07 AM Author: silver wagecucks it's so little discussed that i think it can be called sci-fi but it'd be wrong to put it on a sci-fi shelf at the bookstore you're right on all fronts |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:38 AM Author: excitant den I read it, it was good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36059809) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:43 AM Author: razzle-dazzle fantasy-prone genital piercing philosopher-king the movie is on netflix (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035070) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:45 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum yeah I saw that, one of the other reasons I thought of it in the first place. but I am always a book-before-moviemo. I have to develop my own imagination of the characters before I take in someone else's intepretation. looks good, though. got a bunch of Oscar noms. |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:50 AM Author: impressive sapphire lodge this book is disquieting AS FUCK, and 180 all around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035103) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:51 AM Author: impressive sapphire lodge Also his newest novel is pretty great also. A true successor to Kafka in some ways. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035107) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:58 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum yeah I didn't want to reveal the major plot point involving the narrator's father that happens like ~90 pages in, but that shit shook me bad. Luckily, the chapter break happens right after it, so I was able to put it down and digest. |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:55 AM Author: Insane swashbuckling bawdyhouse This thread made me want to stick my head in an oven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035118) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:55 AM Author: 180 Shrine Never had you pegged as a Sylvia Plath fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035121) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:57 AM Author: Gay rough-skinned striped hyena there was a movie, you know. its pretty good. not amazing or anything, but solid.
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Date: May 12th, 2018 2:00 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum see above, always gotta do book before movie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035149) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 2:01 AM Author: Gay rough-skinned striped hyena its kind of a story about nothing, to be honest. more of a nice window into aristocratic england. have fun reading! sorry for spoiling it for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035155) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 2:03 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum lol you're not spoiling anything, man, what you described is obvious from the first 1/3 of the book. Like I said, it's written in that Victorian style where nothing "happens" but the characters are 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36035166) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:10 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum UPDATE: finished it. Truly excellent. Highly recommend. The ending was ABSOLUTELY | DEVASTATING but pitch perfect.
Watched the film adaptation, and although it was more or less fine (Hopkins and Thompson turned in great performances), they took some subtle yet serious liberties, two in particular that I remember, both involving Stevens (the narrator) and Miss Kenton. One is when Stevens is walking past Miss Kenton's room and he hears her weeping (shortly after she had told him she was getting married). In the book, he pauses and listens for a few moments, but then just keeps walking, another example of a time when a less aspie man (or at least a man less type-A dedicated to his job) would've been a friend and comforted her. In the movie, they have him go in and talk to her. Then, even more inexplicably, right at the end: in the book, Miss Kenton basically straight up tells Stevens in their last conversation that she sometimes imagined what life would've been like "with" him, clearly meaning if they had been together. In the movie, they somehow deleted this line entirely and just left the connection strongly implied. Really pissed me off. |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:00 AM Author: silver wagecucks welcome to the ishiguro hype train, one of my top three living authors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36059849) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:09 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum who else? Cormac? |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:37 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum but for real, read this book bros you can blaze through it in a few days |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:01 AM Author: Startled Floppy Cruise Ship Generalized Bond why are gooks writing novels about being english butlers. mind your own business. |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:02 AM Author: silver wagecucks moved to the UK at 5yo, he's british for all intensive purposes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36059855) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:04 AM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36059860) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 3:08 AM Author: Startled Floppy Cruise Ship Generalized Bond that's not how it works (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36059982) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:46 AM Author: silver wagecucks to the extent we're talking about someone who's only living memories are of being in the UK, yeah it sort of does, shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36060904) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:16 AM Author: Razzle sinister casino international law enforcement agency ive read it. XOXO BIGASIA must read list. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36059886) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:46 AM Author: silver wagecucks he's british (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36060905) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: Cowardly Aqua Forum gonna try to cop dat THE BURIED GIANT at the library this week 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#36062860) |
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Date: July 6th, 2026 10:59 AM Author: propecia mathematica Finished this book a couple days ago and still thinking about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2Reputation#49981429) |