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zero accountability in Biden’s America “Pros...
Mustard Friendly Grandma
  02/21/23
tldr. why was there a hot gun on set?
Fragrant dragon
  02/21/23
tl;dr: he was charged under a law passed after the events in...
Trip home
  02/21/23
pEDO RING
Nighttime Henna Temple Blood Rage
  02/21/23
Biden: the gun behaved stupidly
Mustard Friendly Grandma
  02/21/23
LMAO at the prosecutor. In a statement, Heather Brewer, a...
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Internet-worthy chocolate market
  02/21/23
justice is not only blind but also retarded and gay
abusive whorehouse cuckoldry
  02/21/23
To be fair, what is she supposed to say? "I fucked up b...
Charismatic Insane Church Building Really Tough Guy
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peach flickering rigor
  02/21/23
There go those city-slicker defense attorneys again, always ...
tantric abode
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razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake
  02/21/23
no gun handler can be 100% absolved of responsibility for po...
Mustard Friendly Grandma
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razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake
  02/21/23
sup Hilaria
Mustard Friendly Grandma
  02/21/23
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razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake
  02/21/23
you seem to not know even the most basic facts of the case
Mustard Friendly Grandma
  02/21/23
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razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake
  02/21/23
The armorer landed a job she wasn't qualified for and somebo...
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razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake
  02/21/23
You have some strong opinions for a guy who has no idea what...
Irate dysfunction
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razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake
  02/21/23
He's the producer of the film
azure frozen nowag
  02/21/23
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razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake
  02/21/23
producers are responsible for the shit that happens on set
azure frozen nowag
  02/21/23
In terms of civil liability, sure, but he shouldn't have bee...
khaki gaped doctorate
  02/21/23
I love listening to reptiles who have clearly never handled ...
Charismatic Insane Church Building Really Tough Guy
  02/21/23
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razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake
  02/21/23
Nah man. He's an actor on a set where real guns are used as ...
khaki gaped doctorate
  02/21/23
(shitlib who doesn’t believe in accountability)
Mustard Friendly Grandma
  02/21/23
He's 100% responsible by virtue of the fact that he pulled t...
azure frozen nowag
  02/21/23
and white
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  02/21/23
lolno
Titillating dark space
  02/21/23
judge got a lot of letters of support
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  02/21/23
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cyan spectacular theater stage
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provocative bipolar ceo
  02/21/23
Guns don't kill. The hands that hold them when they discharg...
Irate dysfunction
  02/21/23
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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:02 PM
Author: Mustard Friendly Grandma

zero accountability in Biden’s America

“Prosecutors have downgraded the involuntary manslaughter charges against Alec Baldwin, significantly reducing the possible prison time for the actor, who was holding the gun that discharged on the “Rust” movie set, killing the film’s cinematographer.

Mr. Baldwin’s lawyers argued this month that the Santa Fe County district attorney had incorrectly charged the actor under a version of a New Mexico firearm law that was passed months after the fatal shooting in October 2021.

If convicted under that law, called a firearm enhancement, Mr. Baldwin would have received a minimum prison sentence of five years. Instead, he now faces a maximum of 18 months in prison.

In a statement, Heather Brewer, a spokeswoman for the district attorney, said the prosecution had dropped the firearm enhancement to “avoid further litigious distractions by Mr. Baldwin and his attorneys.”

“The prosecution’s priority is securing justice, not securing billable hours for big-city attorneys,” Ms. Brewer said on Monday.

The altered charges, which were filed on Friday, also apply to Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the armorer who was responsible for weapons and ammunition on set. She loaded the gun the day of the shooting with what were supposed to be all dummies, inert cartridges used to resemble real rounds on camera. While Mr. Baldwin was drawing his revolver to prepare for a scene, the gun discharged a live round, killing the cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins, and wounding the director, Joel Souza.

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Mr. Baldwin has asserted he was not responsible for the fatal shooting, saying he was handed a gun that he was told was “cold,” meaning it did not contain live rounds and was safe to handle.

Lawyers for both Mr. Baldwin and Ms. Gutierrez-Reed had argued that by charging their clients under the firearm enhancement law, the prosecutors appeared to be applying a version of the law that had not been passed until 2022.

The version that was on the New Mexico books when Ms. Hutchins was killed says the firearm enhancement applies when a weapon is “brandished” in the commission of a noncapital felony. The newer version imposes a minimum five-year sentence if a firearm was “discharged” in the commission of a noncapital felony.

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According to the law’s definition of “brandished,” the action must be done “with intent to intimidate or injure a person.” Mr. Baldwin’s lawyers argued in court papers that the prosecutors had not accused the actor of that behavior in legal filings or public statements, instead alleging that the actor had been negligent on set and had repeatedly violated film safety standards, which he denies.

A lawyer for Ms. Gutierrez-Reed, Jason Bowles, wrote in court papers that the firearm enhancement could not apply to her because she was not holding the gun when it went off. Instead, prosecutors have accused her of negligent behavior that included not properly checking the rounds that she loaded into the gun. Ms. Gutierrez-Reed told investigators that she did check each round that day.

Mr. Bowles said the prosecutors’ decision to drop the firearm enhancement “reflected good ethical standards and was correct on the facts and law.” A lawyer for Mr. Baldwin, Luke Nikas, declined to comment.

For both defendants, prosecutors have filed two counts in the alternative, meaning that if they are convicted, a jury would decide which definition of involuntary manslaughter applies.

This is not the only challenge Mr. Baldwin’s legal team has made to the prosecution’s case. The lawyers have also questioned the constitutionality of the district attorney’s appointment of a special prosecutor, Andrea Reeb. Ms. Reeb is also a newly elected state representative, and Mr. Baldwin’s lawyers have said that serving in two separate branches of government is unlawful and have asked for her to be disqualified.

A judge will be asked to determine whether there is cause to move forward with the charges filed against Mr. Baldwin and Ms. Gutierrez-Reed. The first hearing in the case is scheduled for Friday.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/20/arts/alec-baldwin-manslaughter-charge-rust.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962185)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:04 PM
Author: Fragrant dragon

tldr. why was there a hot gun on set?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962189)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:05 PM
Author: Trip home

tl;dr: he was charged under a law passed after the events in question. so that charge was dropped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962194)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:05 PM
Author: Nighttime Henna Temple Blood Rage

pEDO RING

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962195)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:06 PM
Author: Mustard Friendly Grandma

Biden: the gun behaved stupidly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962200)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:05 PM
Author: Nighttime Henna Temple Blood Rage

LMAO at the prosecutor.

In a statement, Heather Brewer, a spokeswoman for the district attorney, said the prosecution had dropped the firearm enhancement to “avoid further litigious distractions by Mr. Baldwin and his attorneys.”

OKAY FINE! APPARENTLY MR. SMART ALEC BALDWIN DOESN'T WANT TO GO TO PRISON FOR FIVE YEARS. SO WE'RE NOT DOING A THING THAT IS CLEARLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL ANYMORE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962192)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:15 PM
Author: cyan spectacular theater stage



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:15 PM
Author: Seedy clear nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962260)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:39 PM
Author: Exciting slap-happy parlour weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962364)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:40 PM
Author: Internet-worthy chocolate market



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:49 PM
Author: abusive whorehouse cuckoldry

justice is not only blind but also retarded and gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962404)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 3:54 PM
Author: Charismatic Insane Church Building Really Tough Guy

To be fair, what is she supposed to say? "I fucked up because I charged him under a law that wasn't on the books when the crime was committed. Oops. My bad. Thank you to Alec and his team for catching that."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962936)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 4:07 PM
Author: peach flickering rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962986)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 4:59 PM
Author: tantric abode

There go those city-slicker defense attorneys again, always with the smooth talk and Ivory tower nonsense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45963252)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 6:45 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.




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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:07 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962203)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:09 PM
Author: Mustard Friendly Grandma

no gun handler can be 100% absolved of responsibility for pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962212)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:13 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:14 PM
Author: Mustard Friendly Grandma

sup Hilaria

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962254)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:15 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962262)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:16 PM
Author: Mustard Friendly Grandma

you seem to not know even the most basic facts of the case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962266)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:19 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962281)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 3:11 PM
Author: khaki gaped doctorate

The armorer landed a job she wasn't qualified for and somebody else got killed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962740)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 4:01 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962964)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 4:37 PM
Author: Irate dysfunction

You have some strong opinions for a guy who has no idea what happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45963146)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 4:45 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45963186)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:15 PM
Author: azure frozen nowag

He's the producer of the film

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962261)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:16 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962265)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:43 PM
Author: azure frozen nowag

producers are responsible for the shit that happens on set

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962387)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 3:14 PM
Author: khaki gaped doctorate

In terms of civil liability, sure, but he shouldn't have been charged criminally unless he 100% knew that the armorer was completely unqualified but hired her anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962754)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 4:01 PM
Author: Charismatic Insane Church Building Really Tough Guy

I love listening to reptiles who have clearly never handled a gun in their lives. This is literally Gun Safety 101. Always assume that a gun is loaded unless you have checked to verify that it isn't. Never point a gun at a target unless you are ready to fire. If Baldwin had followed any one of the basic gun safety precautions, this wouldn't have happened.

So yes, he 100% deserves blame for this. If anything, I think he deserves much harsher punishment than he is going to get. If someone dies because of your gross negligence/incompetence, you deserve worse than a slap on the wrist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962962)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 4:02 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle patrolman corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962967)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 3:11 PM
Author: khaki gaped doctorate

Nah man. He's an actor on a set where real guns are used as props with real looking ammunition. He can't be expected to have the level of firearm competency necessary to ensure firearm safety on set because prop guns are usually real, functional firearms and prop ammunition closely resembles live ammunition. On set firearm safety is the responsibility of the armorer, not some lib actor who knows nothing about guns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962737)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 5:32 PM
Author: Mustard Friendly Grandma

(shitlib who doesn’t believe in accountability)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45963404)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:15 PM
Author: azure frozen nowag

He's 100% responsible by virtue of the fact that he pulled the trigger and is also the producer of the movie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962258)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:40 PM
Author: Exciting slap-happy parlour weed whacker

and white

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962367)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:43 PM
Author: Titillating dark space

lolno

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962388)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:45 PM
Author: appetizing carnelian pervert

judge got a lot of letters of support

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962391)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 1:48 PM
Author: Flesh Impressive Background Story Area

“The prosecution’s priority is securing justice, not securing billable hours for big-city attorneys,” Ms. Brewer said on Monday.

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962399)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 3:22 PM
Author: Mustard Friendly Grandma



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Date: February 21st, 2023 3:40 PM
Author: marvelous dead selfie



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Date: February 21st, 2023 3:50 PM
Author: Rambunctious alcoholic business firm

I can't stand when prosecutors give statements like this to the press.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45962910)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: cyan spectacular theater stage



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Date: February 21st, 2023 4:40 PM
Author: provocative bipolar ceo



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Date: February 21st, 2023 4:31 PM
Author: Irate dysfunction

Guns don't kill. The hands that hold them when they discharge, kill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45963112)



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Date: February 21st, 2023 4:41 PM
Author: provocative bipolar ceo

Bullets don't kill. The blood loss when the victim exsanguinates kills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5294417&forum_id=2Reputation#45963170)