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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Spectacular stead knife
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
haunting flushed lettuce
  03/19/18
it's despicable
Spectacular stead knife
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
Fear-inspiring abode black woman
  03/19/18
lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, ...
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  08/04/25
Trendash for life. What the fuck?
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Irradiated Brass Nowag
  03/19/18
This literally does not exist in the English language. I hav...
Spectacular stead knife
  03/19/18
(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers ...
Saffron thirsty pozpig locale
  03/19/18
I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a ...
Spectacular stead knife
  03/19/18
Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes
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Soggy Hunting Ground
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Is this flame
pearl blood rage half-breed
  03/19/18
Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effo...
Geriatric crackhouse
  03/19/18
Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just ...
Stubborn emerald house love of her life
  03/19/18
You know what is really fucking insane is when people point ...
Spectacular stead knife
  03/19/18
cr, huge patent prole tell
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fighting garrison
  03/19/18
i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked ab...
disturbing feces
  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
Spectacular stead knife
  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
Flatulent Karate
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
Spectacular stead knife
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
Flatulent Karate
  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
excitant translucent theater
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
Saffron thirsty pozpig locale
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
histrionic burgundy toilet seat
  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
Spectacular stead knife
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
pearl blood rage half-breed
  03/19/18
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Saffron thirsty pozpig locale
  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
haunting flushed lettuce
  03/19/18
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
jet supple point son of senegal
  03/19/18
Amateur! Increase the font scale setting to increase the ...
haunting flushed lettuce
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
Spectacular stead knife
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
haunting flushed lettuce
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
excitant translucent theater
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
fighting garrison
  03/19/18
Damn you're fast
excitant translucent theater
  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
fighting garrison
  03/19/18
...
excitant translucent theater
  03/19/18
Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this ...
histrionic burgundy toilet seat
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Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but t...
jet supple point son of senegal
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excitant translucent theater
  03/19/18
nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck abou...
excitant translucent theater
  03/19/18
*BEEP BEEP BEEP*
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  03/19/18
killself
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  03/20/18
transhyphenist non bigot here
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  03/20/18
I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and C...
Irate Pit People Who Are Hurt
  03/20/18
This is — the credited criticism — so say I.
rusted french chef idea he suggested
  05/12/18
The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the pr...
Flatulent Karate
  05/12/18
Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell...
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  05/14/18


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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Spectacular stead knife

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: haunting flushed lettuce

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Spectacular stead knife

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring abode black woman

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Saffron thirsty pozpig locale

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Hairraiser roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35645246)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Orchid Stirring Parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35658763)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Saffron thirsty pozpig locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36050284)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#49155425)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Well-lubricated sticky meetinghouse

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Saffron thirsty pozpig locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641327)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Irradiated Brass Nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641346)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Spectacular stead knife

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Saffron thirsty pozpig locale

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641352)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Spectacular stead knife

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: fighting garrison

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641427)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Insecure fuchsia kitchen selfie



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Chocolate lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641354)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Peach Scourge Upon The Earth Range



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Insecure fuchsia kitchen selfie



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Soggy Hunting Ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641406)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: pearl blood rage half-breed

Is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641326)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Geriatric crackhouse

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Stubborn emerald house love of her life

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Spectacular stead knife

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Onyx gunner

cr, huge patent prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641765)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Spectacular stead knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35652523)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: fighting garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641869)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: disturbing feces

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Spectacular stead knife

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Flatulent Karate

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Spectacular stead knife

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Flatulent Karate

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: excitant translucent theater

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Saffron thirsty pozpig locale

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: histrionic burgundy toilet seat

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Spectacular stead knife

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: pearl blood rage half-breed

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Saffron thirsty pozpig locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: haunting flushed lettuce

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: jet supple point son of senegal

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: haunting flushed lettuce

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Spectacular stead knife

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: haunting flushed lettuce

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: excitant translucent theater

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: fighting garrison

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: excitant translucent theater

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: fighting garrison

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: excitant translucent theater



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: histrionic burgundy toilet seat

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: jet supple point son of senegal

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: excitant translucent theater



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: excitant translucent theater

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: cerise dysfunction

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641759)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: claret hall pervert

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35645224)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Cordovan masturbator base

alt 0151

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35645233)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Coral Set Boistinker

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Irate Pit People Who Are Hurt

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: rusted french chef idea he suggested

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Flatulent Karate

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Cheese-eating ruby halford ladyboy

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36050530)