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Why does America suck at soccer?

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dashing mood
  05/30/12
All our good athletes go into other sports.
trip elite skinny woman market
  05/30/12
hypo: all US national/olympic team members are offered $5M/y...
dashing mood
  05/30/12
That's insulting to NBA and NFL stars
spectacular church
  05/30/12
how many current NBA/NFL stars are elite soccer players? ...
dashing mood
  05/31/12
None of them trained for soccer, pumbro
spectacular church
  05/31/12
steve nash and chad ochocinco come to mind olajuwon was a...
dashing mood
  05/31/12
is this a long term project? you have to start soccer before...
Razzle-dazzle nudist national
  05/31/12
lol like what? because literally zero mlb/nfl/nba types are ...
navy theatre community account
  05/31/12
america invented baseball because she couldn't compete in cr...
yellow crotch home
  05/30/12
all of our players except dempsey and howard are midgets or ...
aggressive depressive
  05/30/12
dempsey is world class these days.
Razzle-dazzle nudist national
  05/30/12
i dont disagree, but he's hurt all the time and he cant do i...
aggressive depressive
  05/30/12
wtf? he played 37 of 38 EPL games this year
Fighting box office
  05/31/12
he's also been hurt the last three weeks and missed a game a...
aggressive depressive
  05/31/12
oh, so the last 3 weeks is "all the time" now? he...
Fighting box office
  05/31/12
i'll be honest bro, i don't really give a fuck about fucking...
aggressive depressive
  05/31/12
Just wait until 2030 when we're half Mexican.
spectacular church
  05/31/12
thats why Dempsey is good, he played only against Mexicans g...
aggressive depressive
  05/31/12
he's good because he's the best. the roaches he played again...
filthy maroon toaster
  05/31/12
mexicans are not that good though. in fact, for a country of...
Razzle-dazzle nudist national
  05/31/12
and a lot of the ones in the US are from regions of mexico w...
curious location
  05/31/12
plus they're fat as fuck.
Razzle-dazzle nudist national
  05/31/12
coppin dat pan dulce, chicharrones, horchata, sopapillas, ag...
curious location
  05/31/12
It's a stupid sport and we have the money to play better one...
Azure Double Fault
  05/31/12
it's identified too much as a kid's sport our white europ...
curious location
  05/31/12
well, it should be a kid's sport. you have to start young. I...
Razzle-dazzle nudist national
  05/31/12
Our best athletes don't play it. Case solved!!
well-lubricated cracking tanning salon legend
  05/31/12
this argument sure makes americans feel better
Fighting box office
  05/31/12
Yes because if it's one thing Americans care about its socce...
well-lubricated cracking tanning salon legend
  05/31/12
Yet we have so many posts from "non-soccer fans" w...
Fighting box office
  05/31/12
Wait! Wasn't Freddy Adu supposed to be the next Maradona?
yellow crotch home
  05/31/12
It doesn't. But it is not truly elite like Brazil or Spain o...
Grizzly Odious School Becky
  05/31/12
i thought we looked decent against brazil. we played an open...
Razzle-dazzle nudist national
  05/31/12
our kids grow up with poor coaching in poor youth set ups. a...
crusty swashbuckling native boiling water
  05/31/12
'america is the only country where kids have to pay to play ...
Razzle-dazzle nudist national
  05/31/12
(mitt romney)
Fighting box office
  05/31/12
i mean parents have to pay for their kids to play soccer in ...
crusty swashbuckling native boiling water
  05/31/12
yeah, a soccer player has to be groomed from early childhood...
Razzle-dazzle nudist national
  05/31/12
wrong. clubs primarily fund the youth programs, not the nat...
Mind-boggling Pistol Hairy Legs
  05/31/12
this is essentially true. i was referring more to the schoo...
crusty swashbuckling native boiling water
  05/31/12
because we don't give a shit about soccer and never will. so...
exciting topaz principal's office
  05/31/12
o rly? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItKfVHMQ108
Mind-boggling Pistol Hairy Legs
  05/31/12
to be fair, the World Cup and Gold Cup both beat the NBA Fin...
aggressive depressive
  05/31/12
how about the olympic hockey finals?
Razzle-dazzle nudist national
  05/31/12
im sure those were higher, olympics are a different jingoist...
aggressive depressive
  05/31/12
so are the world and gold cups.
Razzle-dazzle nudist national
  05/31/12
the charge was "we don't give a shit about soccer and n...
aggressive depressive
  05/31/12
should have been "we don't give a shit about soccer for...
exciting topaz principal's office
  05/31/12
in fairness bro outside of the NFL for what sport is this tr...
aggressive depressive
  05/31/12
baseball, basketball, and to a lesser extent, golf and hocke...
exciting topaz principal's office
  05/31/12
Referring to WC 2010 ticket purchases, "According to th...
Mind-boggling Pistol Hairy Legs
  05/31/12
not enough opportunities for commercial breaks. cut each hal...
bright territorial mad cow disease
  05/31/12
timeouts are so gay.
Razzle-dazzle nudist national
  05/31/12
why do you hate america bro? the endless lite beer and picku...
bright territorial mad cow disease
  05/31/12
shut up faggot it's not because you don't like how the nba a...
filthy maroon toaster
  05/31/12
sadly true. no major network will give it a chance unless t...
crusty swashbuckling native boiling water
  05/31/12
lol not live enjoy that faggot
filthy maroon toaster
  05/31/12
cr lol at this countttry
navy theatre community account
  05/31/12
soccer's already passed hockey nationally. but for the next ...
bright territorial mad cow disease
  05/31/12
not a single professional soccer player coming from those pl...
filthy maroon toaster
  05/31/12
i think they'll have no problem finding pro soccer players f...
bright territorial mad cow disease
  05/31/12
kasey keller is from the seattle area
crusty swashbuckling native boiling water
  05/31/12
The US isn't that bad. We've won the same number of world c...
comical meetinghouse
  05/31/12
doing surprisingly well in 2026, actually rooting for nor...
nyuug
  07/01/26


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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:55 PM
Author: dashing mood



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:56 PM
Author: trip elite skinny woman market

All our good athletes go into other sports.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796825)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:58 PM
Author: dashing mood

hypo: all US national/olympic team members are offered $5M/yr contracts

does this make us better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796844)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:59 PM
Author: spectacular church

That's insulting to NBA and NFL stars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796852)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: dashing mood

how many current NBA/NFL stars are elite soccer players?

i don't see much overlap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796860)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:01 AM
Author: spectacular church

None of them trained for soccer, pumbro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796873)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:03 AM
Author: dashing mood

steve nash and chad ochocinco come to mind

olajuwon was a soccer player originally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796882)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist national

is this a long term project? you have to start soccer before the age of 10 at the latest. it's not like basketball, football, boxing which you can pick up in a few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796865)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:59 AM
Author: navy theatre community account

lol like what? because literally zero mlb/nfl/nba types are suited to play fifa level soccer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797398)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:58 PM
Author: yellow crotch home

america invented baseball because she couldn't compete in cricket. america invented gridiron football because she couldn't compete in rugby/football (euro)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796839)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:57 PM
Author: aggressive depressive

all of our players except dempsey and howard are midgets or castoffs from other countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796835)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:59 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist national

dempsey is world class these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796850)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:59 PM
Author: aggressive depressive

i dont disagree, but he's hurt all the time and he cant do it alone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796856)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:05 AM
Author: Fighting box office

wtf? he played 37 of 38 EPL games this year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796902)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:14 AM
Author: aggressive depressive

he's also been hurt the last three weeks and missed a game and a half when he's the team's most impt player

we were damn lucky he played in South Africa at all. his aggressiveness is one of his best traits but also one of his biggest vulnerabilities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796977)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:35 AM
Author: Fighting box office

oh, so the last 3 weeks is "all the time" now? he's played in 175 of the last 190 premier league games. very few wingers/strikers play that many games over a 5 year span

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797169)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:41 AM
Author: aggressive depressive

i'll be honest bro, i don't really give a fuck about fucking fulham.

he's missed multiple national team games (of which there are fewer, thus each more important) in 2009, 2010, and 2012 due to injury.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797225)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: spectacular church

Just wait until 2030 when we're half Mexican.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796859)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: aggressive depressive

thats why Dempsey is good, he played only against Mexicans growing up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796864)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:02 AM
Author: filthy maroon toaster

he's good because he's the best. the roaches he played against in nagadoches weren't shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796877)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:02 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist national

mexicans are not that good though. in fact, for a country of 120mm with soccer as their #1 sport they're pretty piss poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796879)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:04 AM
Author: curious location

and a lot of the ones in the US are from regions of mexico where baseball is more popular

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796896)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:08 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist national

plus they're fat as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796929)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:11 AM
Author: curious location

coppin dat pan dulce, chicharrones, horchata, sopapillas, agua frescas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796952)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: Azure Double Fault

It's a stupid sport and we have the money to play better ones.

Why would you want to kick a ball around like a retard when you can play a sport with precision with your hands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796862)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:04 AM
Author: curious location

it's identified too much as a kid's sport

our white european population is too removed from europe by too many generations

a big share of our hispanics are from northern mexico followed by the caribbean and those places prefer baseball

filipinos are a big share of our asian population - again, baseball

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796892)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:11 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist national

well, it should be a kid's sport. you have to start young. I don't think kid stars stop playing once they reach adolescence. probably only the mediocre ones.

filipinos play basketball.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796949)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:06 AM
Author: well-lubricated cracking tanning salon legend

Our best athletes don't play it.

Case solved!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796910)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:07 AM
Author: Fighting box office

this argument sure makes americans feel better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796918)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:09 AM
Author: well-lubricated cracking tanning salon legend

Yes because if it's one thing Americans care about its soccer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796936)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:11 AM
Author: Fighting box office

Yet we have so many posts from "non-soccer fans" wondering why we're so bad. Americans hate losing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796950)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:07 AM
Author: yellow crotch home

Wait! Wasn't Freddy Adu supposed to be the next Maradona?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796914)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:08 AM
Author: Grizzly Odious School Becky

It doesn't. But it is not truly elite like Brazil or Spain or Netherlands either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20796924)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:17 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist national

i thought we looked decent against brazil. we played an open game which led to us giving up 4 goals but that's okay during a friendly. you have to learn how to not simply bunker if you want to be elite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797004)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:16 AM
Author: crusty swashbuckling native boiling water

our kids grow up with poor coaching in poor youth set ups. america is the only country where kids have to pay to play soccer.

also, kids leagues are 11-on-11 and played on adult-sized fields with adult-sized goals. kids aren't able to get enough touches on the ball to develop technique, and they have to resort to lumping it through the air to get it down the field. in spain and holland, kids only play 5-on-5 or 7-on-7 on half-sized fields. in brazil and argentina, they play futsal.

lastly, americans care about victory above all else, even in kids leagues. as a result, athletic kids dominate even when they have shitty technique. smaller, slower kids don't have a chance to improve, while athletic kids coast by on their temporary advantage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797001)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:31 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist national

'america is the only country where kids have to pay to play soccer.'

you mean they're forced?

rest seems credited

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797129)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:35 AM
Author: Fighting box office

(mitt romney)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797173)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:36 AM
Author: crusty swashbuckling native boiling water

i mean parents have to pay for their kids to play soccer in competitive leagues

that's not the case in europe. each nation's football association funds their youth programs so parents don't have to pay. this gives poor kids like wayne rooney a chance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797182)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:42 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist national

yeah, a soccer player has to be groomed from early childhood like a gymnast.

in south america it's mostly the top clubs that sponsor youth academies, isn't it? i thought that was the case in europe as well.

i suppose american clubs don't have enough history yet to consider a long term project like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797238)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:43 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Pistol Hairy Legs

wrong. clubs primarily fund the youth programs, not the national associations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797243)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:48 AM
Author: crusty swashbuckling native boiling water

this is essentially true. i was referring more to the schoolboy/sunday/non-league programs that any kid can sign up for, not the club youth programs which recruit and sign kids.

EDIT: although in England, the FA does also partially funds league clubs' youth programs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797290)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:43 AM
Author: exciting topaz principal's office

because we don't give a shit about soccer and never will. sorry, libs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797246)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:45 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Pistol Hairy Legs

o rly? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItKfVHMQ108

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797258)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:47 AM
Author: aggressive depressive

to be fair, the World Cup and Gold Cup both beat the NBA Finals and Stanley Cup Finals in those years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797275)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:49 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist national

how about the olympic hockey finals?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797296)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:51 AM
Author: aggressive depressive

im sure those were higher, olympics are a different jingoistic animal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797317)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:52 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist national

so are the world and gold cups.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797338)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:53 AM
Author: aggressive depressive

the charge was "we don't give a shit about soccer and never will"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797342)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:56 AM
Author: exciting topaz principal's office

should have been "we don't give a shit about soccer for more than 2 weeks at a time and never will" i stand corrected

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797373)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:56 AM
Author: aggressive depressive

in fairness bro outside of the NFL for what sport is this true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797381)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:59 AM
Author: exciting topaz principal's office

baseball, basketball, and to a lesser extent, golf and hockey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797395)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:54 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Pistol Hairy Legs

Referring to WC 2010 ticket purchases, "According to the South African organizing committee and FIFA, soccer's international governing body, more than 130,000 of the 2.8 million tickets were purchased by U.S. residents, the highest total by any country other than South Africa."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797355)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:52 AM
Author: bright territorial mad cow disease

not enough opportunities for commercial breaks. cut each half in half, make timeouts mandatory before PKs and free kicks, give every team a bunch of 30 second timeouts to use. then watch the game flourish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797329)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:54 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle nudist national

timeouts are so gay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797352)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:58 AM
Author: bright territorial mad cow disease

why do you hate america bro? the endless lite beer and pickup truck commercials filled with eagles and shit are what makes are baseball, football, and ncaa tournament great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797388)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:58 AM
Author: filthy maroon toaster

shut up faggot it's not because you don't like how the nba and nfl are run its because athletic americans don't play soccer. they never will

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797393)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:59 AM
Author: crusty swashbuckling native boiling water

sadly true. no major network will give it a chance unless they can cop dat ad revenue.

at least fox has started showing the champions league final and some marquee premiership games (i remember seeing spurs-arsenal on fox, although it wasn't live)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797400)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:00 AM
Author: filthy maroon toaster

lol not live enjoy that faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797412)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:02 AM
Author: navy theatre community account

cr

lol at this countttry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797439)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:12 AM
Author: bright territorial mad cow disease

soccer's already passed hockey nationally. but for the next decade it will be the favorite sport of lib cities like seattle that don't have other traditional teams and mid-size cities in the southwest and midwest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797543)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:13 AM
Author: filthy maroon toaster

not a single professional soccer player coming from those places in the next 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797553)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:30 AM
Author: bright territorial mad cow disease

i think they'll have no problem finding pro soccer players from mexican communities in the southwest.

does the pacific NW produce any athletes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2Reputation#20797682)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:31 AM
Author: crusty swashbuckling native boiling water

kasey keller is from the seattle area

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Date: May 31st, 2012 7:46 AM
Author: comical meetinghouse

The US isn't that bad. We've won the same number of world cups as the Dutch, and only one less than Spain, England and France.

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Date: July 1st, 2026 8:22 PM
Author: nyuug

doing surprisingly well in 2026, actually

rooting for norway to win it all though, for obvious reasons

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